Be a better neighbor. Sign up for EveryBlock to follow and discuss neighborhood news.

Sign up for free →


11:01 p.m.

Might I add- No One Wants To Talk About This- but VEterans are more likely to suffer from PTSD, and housing them WITHIN 200 YARDS of TRAIN TRACKS & FREEWAY is STUPID & IRRESPONSIBLE.

11 p.m.

I gotta agree with NW-Sider on this. The LOCATION of this project is ALL WRONG. Any good that could come of it, and a lot of the positive possibilities that are being tossed at us as facts, are yet to come. I wouldn't want my grandmother or my aunt who's in a wheelchair at this location, no way!. It's ludicrous. This is a MAJOR INTERSECTION, with the FREEWAY and the METRA right BEHIND IT! Please, people, let's all be reasonable- this will in NO WAY INTEGRATE ANYONE into our community because the LOCATION ITSELF is ISOLATED and DANGEROUS!!
Seriously. Go there, or Google Map it. This shouldn't be zoned residential, let alone, for disabled, or veterans-

10:58 p.m.

This is an awful location for housing, of any kind.
The train tracks and highway are right behind it-
it's the worst congested intersection,
and residents will have a long walk to fresh food. This is a terrible idea.
All the good things that this development COULD do will be taken away from this project because it is in the WRONG PLACE.
This location will not integrate anyone, btw, it will isolate it's residents.

8:42 p.m.

Haven't read the comments yet- but Wow- that is a LONG winded, BIASED article!

10:09 p.m.

Understood. I don't like Full Circle's position on this issue though. When asked if each resident would be vetted when they turn 18, the answer was 'No'. So, if a 17 year old with a criminal history moves in with the family, they're fine with that. I'm not.

But I'm really not trying to make this another thread about Full Circle. A lot of us here in Jeff Park have all agreed we could use more Senior housing, and we were chastised as racists for it.
I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy that is being put on the table dressed up like flowers.

11:33 p.m.

There seems to be sufficient space to put both the Full Circle Development AND another senior housing coalition here. This six corners hole is a great place for both!

11:13 p.m.
At 42 seconds. And we were informed at the Feb 9 meeting that no one under 18 yrs would be vetted (criminal background check).

11:01 p.m.

Look at your Alderman and his wife shouting at residents who are asking for senior housing- Jill points a finger and shouts 'You're a racist!' to a person who say's 'Why can't this development be just for seniors?" If you can't see the hypocrisy in this, then I can't help you.

10:47 p.m.

that comment doesn't really make any sense

10:42 p.m.

Oh, Sure! When we ask for senior housing at 5150 Northwest Highway, we're labeled racists. Put it at six corners, and it's a great idea! Wtf.
Please, please, please- Put the Full Circle Housing Development Plan there. It is a much better location for many residents!!

10:30 p.m.

I can't understand the price tag attached to this. Not only is it really steep- there's a 100,000 difference- 100 to 240 thousand? Fishy price, and fishy gap. While I've never been a fan of participatory budgeting, I think it's important that we vote against this and do something more responsible with our funds.

2:18 p.m.

Thanks to SEV also- there's a post about how there's still time to stop this. I still find it hard to believe that anyone in their right mind would approve this location for so many residents. This is bad idea, folks. Also, we can call our State Representative,Robert Martwick (D)773.286.1115 Enough calls to the State Rep might get someone to actually take another look at this, and find a better location for this project.

11:23 p.m.

@Karen You're missing the point. We don't want it built. While you're telling us what we "should" do, the fact is that our Alderman SHOULD listen to his constituents. As residents of the neighborhood, we SHOULD have a right to decide what is built in it, especially when it directly affects our neighborhood's economy and character. The study of Gladstone park agreed that buildings here SHOULD be limited to 4 stories. This location is bordered by the expressway and the busiest intersection in our neighborhood. Full Circle communities SHOULD look for a better location to build this.

9:36 p.m.

Contact the Illinois Housing Development Authority. You can send an e-mail to

4:58 p.m.

Thank you for this, SEV. I WILL call, and I encourage others to as well. I am primarily concerned that the IHDA doesn't know how bad of a location this is for the potential residents. 6 corners would be a much better location for this Full Circle development. At 5150 Northwest Highway they will be cornholed into a dangerous intersection.

1:03 a.m.

Can anyone else see how racist John Arena is being in all this? To state that he intends to build more CHA housing here to 'help end segregation' is a racist statement in itself. Anyone of any color or race is welcome to move and to live where ever they so choose. To state that these CHA units will be built to help end segregation is stating that only people of color or minority are in need of CHA housing. Why doesn't he report himself to the ADL as well?

12:54 a.m.

And so, it seems it would be a fine idea to ADD FULL CIRCLE's plans to THIS location at Ainslie & Lipps.

At Ainslie & Lipps, there is easier access to public transit, easy access to grocery & shops, and the area is already pedestrian friendly, all things that 5150 Northwest Highyway doesn't have.

The 5150 Northwest Highway location is an impractical, unreasonable, and irresponsible location for a residential project, and should never have been zoned for residential purposes.

11:05 a.m.

from RR-
" Alienate the audience and anything you say will have a hard time being heard."
Take your own advice.
If you would just GO to 5150 Northwest Highway yourself, I think you would agree that it is an unsuitable location for so many residents. Assisted living or not.
Again, I have not compared anyone to poo-
I posted an analogy, which clearly went over you head, to illustrate the point that this location is a terrible choice for a residential development- of any kind.

6:19 p.m.

There is a 16 story building planned for Ainslie & Lipps Ave- seems like more than enough room to add some CHA housing.

6:10 p.m.

I didn't compare anyone to poo. READ what i posted. Stop re-interpreting my words to suit your gains.

6:09 p.m.

My name is Rose. That is not fake. I am not 'hiding' from anyone, you troll.
You're being ridiculous.
It it NOT my job to 'find a new site for this project.
It IS part of the Alderman's job to maintain the character and safety of his or her ward.
This will not be a safe place for 100+ residents to live.
This location is an unreasonable and irresponsible location for this residential project.

4:57 p.m.

ROBERT SCOTT- I highly agree.
It just doesn't make sense to rearrange the infrastructure around this address to accommodate such a bad decision.

1:39 p.m.

An apt analogy to sum up your support for this project:

(persons A, B, & C are all standing in poo- but person C is standing in a slightly smaller pile of it)

-Persons A & B say angrily- "Hey! You're standing in less poo than us!"

-Person C says plainly- "Shouldn't we be more concerned with the fact that we're all standing in poo?"

-Persons A & B retort-"Don't try to distract us from from the problem! Stop making this about you!"

That's you, Robert. Persons A & B. Poo is poo, no matter how deep it is, or where you put it. And this location for over 100 residents is poo poo.

1:33 p.m.

Have you EVEN BEEN THERE!? I live within walking distance. The Highway is practically in the back yard. It's so easy for you to sit comfortably in Lakeview, and spew your links about OUR neighborhood- This location is in an industrial corridor, and should never have been zoned for residential purposes at this address.

1:17 p.m.

I HAVE suggested a new site- in my original post. -6 corners.
Why not put this development at Ainslie & Lipp, where it is already pedestrian friendly, and there is already a new development planned? Why doesn't Full Circle work with THOSE developers to put this housing project in a more reasonable location?

BTW, I am NOT OBLIGATED to come up with a better solution just because I point out the flaws with this location.
No matter what new crosswalks are installed, that doesn't make the grocery or shops any closer, or the highway any farther away. The quality of life for residents living at this location would be sub-par, and I think it's insulting to the people who are in need of assisted living (financial or otherwise) to cram them on top of each other, in an UNREASONABLE location.
I've stated my opinion, and you can cite all the articles and boards you want- This location is Wrong for this project, for so many reasons. I really don't think YOU would even want to live there, Robert!

Your comment:
"Either such an alternative site does not exists in the 45th Ward or local residents are falsely using the "site is an island" and "the proposed 7-story building is too tall" arguments as excuses to cover up their real motive of keeping the future, mostly low-income, most likely majority people of color, residents from moving into the 45th Ward."

How DARE YOU?! This is NOT a Racial issue. period. This is about quality of life. No One would Choose to live between the highway and and dangerous viaduct/ intersection.
Instead of ASSUMING you know me, what color I am, or what my abilities are, why don't you GO TO THE SITE. Yourself. Go there, and spend some time at 5150 Northwest Highway. Really take it in.

1:16 p.m.

wow Robert- taking that a little far, eh? I am NOT insulting anyone. I am stating that this is an unattractive location for Anyone WITH common sense. (disabled or not). COMMON SENSE dictates that this project should not be built in this location.

10:24 a.m.

wow, this is a really long thread. I'd like to chime in with my two cents:

I don't understand how this will be a comfortable place to live.

While I am opposed to the project because of it's height and density, I am increasingly concerned that there is a HUGE FLAW that seems to be over looked.

This is NOT a WHEELCHAIR or HANDICAPPED accessible area! There is NO practical crosswalk for these 100+ residents. Getting out and about for these residents will be IMPRACTICAL!!
Where will they do their grocery shopping? There isn't a comfortable way for them to get to Jewel, or Shop "N Save- I fear this proposed density in this location is going to cause so many added pedestrians at an intersection that is already not able to handle the traffic that occurs there.

To get to the Blue Line station from this location, they will have to back track, and cross at a VERY busy intersection, and I fear that traffic accidents will increase. I don't understand the location choice for this many residents- AT ALL. It just doesn't make any sense. They will be stuck between the highway, and two very busy merging streets. There is no sidewalk to the blue line on that side of the street!

If this is REALLY about helping people who need affordable/assisted and handicapped accessible living space, this is the WRONG space for that.

Why not put this project somewhere that is already pedestrian friendly? Like 6 corners? Easier walkabilty, access to grocery and shops. This location will simply not be fair to us current residents, or to those living there.

Milwaukee Ave MUST stay at two lanes each way- emergency and police vehicles depend on this thoroughfare.

I cannot understand how anyone in support of this project can lie to themselves about this location being O.K. If you really think this will be alright, I challenge you to take a wheelchair from that address, at 5:10 p.m., and try to get yourself from there, in that wheelchair, to go do a weeks worth of grocery shopping.

3:26 p.m.

Thank you- that works much better!

— On the media mention 2016 Budget Unveiled
1:24 p.m.

Is anyone else having a problem with this link? It seems the domain name has expired?

— On the media mention 2016 Budget Unveiled
1:03 p.m.

You need a better mirror, and some long, self reflection.

12:35 p.m.

PAC- you are an angry bully here on EB. How you managed to turn such a positive post into an opportunity to throw empty insults is very telling of your character. I pity you.

12:15 p.m.

so dramatic. just because you didn't get your way. No one has even infringed on your rights. There IS a bike lane on Milwaukee. Use it or don't. and again- you can't compare reducing Milwaukee Ave- to marriage rights. I mean, you CAN, but it's dumb.

6:50 p.m.

I support local businesses. If property taxes are not affordable, there will be none. I want my alderman to support all positive local business endeavors- not just those at six corners.

6:11 p.m.

there is no logical comparison between reducing Milwaukee Ave and marriage equality.

6:05 p.m.

Hilarious. 4000 people here spoke out against reducing Milwaukee Ave, and that's why it's not happening.

5:40 p.m.

Huh. I read it as an agreement.
"it's not an achievement if it's a revolving door of businesses opening and closing."

5:32 p.m.

"To state as fact that people bicycling have no right to the public space that is the street in the winter is ignorant."

I never said they don't have the right. I said there's something wrong with you if you are riding your bike in sub-zero temperatures and 5 feet of snow. But by all means- stick to your guns. I really think Portland is a better fit for you.

5:19 p.m.

well, I know you don't. What I'm SAYING is if you have 80 new businesses, in place of 80 business that closed- you are in the same position- not any further ahead. And to say, well wouldn't it be better to have a new business in place of one that closed rather than have it remain empty- OF COURSE- but breaking even isn't winning.

4:51 p.m.

-"if a new business opens, its not good enough or its not close enough or its not the "right" store."
That's not what I'm saying- AT ALL. What I'm SAYING is if you have 80 new businesses, in place of 80 business that closed- you are in the same position- not any further ahead. And to say, well wouldn't it be better to have a new business in place of one that closed rather than have it remain empty- OF COURSE- but breaking even isn't winning.

4:48 p.m.

You are entitled to your opinion. You obviously don't live near here. And if you seriously think it would be safer to have one lane of traffic on Milwaukee Ave, during the winter, when there is snow piled up 5 feet high on the street, you're wrong. And if you're riding your bike during our winters, there is something else wrong with you. When the city issues warnings of severe cold weather, and some 'mightier than though' bicyclist gets hypothermia, or into an accident because a driver couldn't see them under the snow, the only person to blame is that idiot who insists on riding their bike down a main street in sub-zero temperatures. Milwaukee is a MAIN street, and will remain so. Go move to Portland. Quit whining that you and your cronies have to be careful around cars. And if you say you don't drive- even during winter, you're either lying, or you have lost your license. I feel no need to make concessions for you.

"would it be a "new" business?"
sure. IN PLACE of a FAILED one.
"Again, everything is about you. " Seems like that statement points toward YOU.

I was merely using Starbucks as an example. I live in CHICAGO- and I have to DRIVE- yes DRIVE- to a Starbucks. To me, Starbucks is an obvious win- because they are a successful franchise. I 'm simply pointing out that there is not one, where there could be.

Seriously? How self centered and selfish is it to want to completely change the infrastructure of a neighborhood so you can ride your bike?! Listen to what you're saying- your own comments should be directed at yourself.

4:33 p.m.

MJK- I'm not arguing, I'm pointing out a fact. I'm glad LeadBelly's opened there, BUT The only reason LeadBelly's IS there, is because the previous business went under-

4:04 p.m.

to the point- if a business closes, and another opens in the same location- and that happens 5 times, that's still 4 CLOSED businesses. I wouldn't call that progress, that's treading water.

4:01 p.m.

Also- PAC52us- I notice you've been 'muted' 22 times on EB. Ever think your personal attacks and immature comments are unappreciated and unwelcome?

2:39 p.m.

six corners, six corners, six corners. The 45th ward is bigger than six corners!!

2:31 p.m.

Well, that's not true, and it's a silly thing to write.

2:29 p.m.

wow. Thanks for your stunning contributions to EB. And thank you for representing Arena supporters so admirably.

2:13 p.m.

So- by your logic, if a business closes down, and something replaces it- and that happens again, and again, let's say 5 times in the same location- that's 5 new businesses!?

1:21 p.m.

In case you haven't noticed, there are A LOT of vacant lots. And your cheap, immature shots at trying to push people's buttons? Are you serious? Or are you 14?

1:20 p.m.

WHY is the closest Starbucks to me in NILES?!! You'd think Starbucks could, would, open almost anywhere they are invited. Why isn't there one here!?

12:33 p.m.

I was unaware of that- but I was talking about the Steers that was here on Milwaukee and Austin. Closed down during Arena's term- (can't remember if it was 2012 or 2013)

12:29 p.m.

NEW BUSINESSES!!??? I don't understand why this is such a bragging point for him, when just near my house, 2 business closed- and then two new business came in. To me, they cancel each other out. STEERS- went out of business here. CASPIAN CAFE went out of business here. So to say that Leadbelly's and Brandy's are NEW business, is a bit inaccurate- they are IN PLACE of 2 businesses that CLOSED. I'd like to know what other 'new' businesses are in place of ones that closed during his term.

12:15 p.m.

this. The whole Complete Streets Project was ... extremely frustrating. People who LIVE here didn't want a lane removed, and Garrido listened. and again- this.

11:40 a.m.