Next door to the hot dog stand on 18th and Halstead looks like a good place. All it's being used for now is for signs that call for a boycott of the hot dog stand next door I was waiting for the bus the other day and really had a chance to study them. I was appalled! You could take that sign and instead of the hot dog place they could've put"Mexicans" in it. Or "Black Peolple" Or "Chinese" You get my drift, it's being used for nothing but discriminitory remarks. That would be a real good place for a dog to take a crap
Yes! A dog park is totally needed, dogs bring happiness to their owners and friends : )
To ringo712 - the "Boycott Express Grills" signs/protests exist for an interesting reason. Protesters believe Express Grill brings negative/unwanted traffic to the already-busy intersection of 18th and Halsted....
I am asking that you take your time before you comment further. I am past there most days and I have yet to see the "riffraff" you want to keep out I see nothing but a peaceful neighborhood. I see the coffee shop across the street; Have they ever filed any complaints against the hot dog stand?
Justin K.McKinley Parker since 2008, south sider since 1998
I think Kristoffer's Cafe (across from Express Grill) led the effort to oppose the Grill.
Does anyone remember the old Maxwell Street, before UIC tore everything up? There was an Express Grill (I think) at Maxwell and Halsted that was hopping at all hours of the day. I believe this Express Grill moved over to Union, where it still attracts a huge crowd of loiters and panhandlers.
They moved just east right next to the xpressway You asked if anyone remembered the old Maxwell St.? I do, I was a little boy and my Dad used to sell hubcaps there. Matter of fact, I found a picture of the old Maxwell St. of a man selling hubcaps and I think that man is my Dad! I will find it and post it One more thing, from the south loop all down Rooseelt there are panhandlers. I see more there then I see on 18th
There is never a good excuse for discrimination. I don't see garbage all over the ground, nor do I hear loud music being played. The reality is you don't want the hot dog stand there because it does not meet your criteria. You are trying to mask your reasons by claims that are not true. You just would'nnt be able to get away with it if you were to give your real reason which is you don't want any low class peoples of any color coming to 18th and Pilsen. That is discrimminattion and no kind of discrimination is ever acceptable
ringo712, I did not claim any of these anti-Express grill sentiments were mine. I was merely providing you information, citations and updates with the neighborhood. As of a woman of color, I can relate with many issues faced by people of color all over.
Ringo- I live across the street from Express Grill, and I find trash and half-eaten baskets of cheese fries on my front stoop roughly every other day. Perhaps the reason you don't see the trash around is because I pick it up and throw it away.
From my observation, the people who eat there don't care about what they put into their bodies, and they don't care what they do with their trash when they're done defiling themselves. Not very nice neighbors.
We totally took the conversation to a different direction. There is a dog park on Randolph and Washington, which is alittle out of the way. Also somewhere in the vicinity of Indiana and 15th. They are small dog parks but friendly neighborhoods.
We have been trying to start a dog park in the one of the parks in Bridgeport. We wanted to have on in Palmisano Park at 27th-29th and Halsted, but because it a nature park (native plants) the park district said no. We are looking at other options. Is anyone leading this effort in Pilsen? If so, please email me (I have about 300 signatures on petitions to support it!)---firstname.lastname@example.org
It's really hard to start a dog park. The Chicago Park District has very strict requirements. First, the Park Dist had to have suitable park land to allocate. Second, they have specific requirements that must be met to put a dog park in (fencing, draining, etc.). I've been following the Logan Square Dog park effort for years and they're still not done. Residents have to raise at least $70,000 for a park to be built. It's insane. Chicago is not as progressive as other cities when it comes to dog parks.
Yep. We have been quoted 150K. The Park District may split it with us, so we'd still need to raise 75K and locate appropriate land (I have a spot in mind, still clearing with park district). I've been coached by the South Loop Dog Pac.
I am a research assistant at Adler University School of Professional Psychology in the Institute of Social Exclusion. We just finished completing a Health Impact Assessment of the shuttered Crawford and Fisk plants located in the Pilsen/Little Village neighborhoods. We are focusing on the use of open space and the lack of access to green space in these neighborhoods. Right now we are entering the monitoring stage of the assessment and are trying to identify listening events in which we can attend and find out what the community is saying in regards to plans for development.
I have been a resident of Pilsen and am now a resident of Bridgeport. I am also a dog owner and have definitely felt that there is a need for a dog park; more so in Pilsen than Bridgeport. However, I have also heard arguments against such things because of issues associated with gentrification. I am not taking a stance either way however we definitely want to hear what the community is talking about. If any of you know of local events or meetings related to issues of open space I would love to know about them.
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I have really enjoyed hearing all of your opinions and am grateful to know there is such passion for community development in these neighborhoods.
Yes I agree Pilsen is in need of a dog park. I live across the street from Dvorak Park, which is on the list of getting a grant for renovations. I feel the park is big enough to accommodate a dog park, specifically there is a section next to the pool, which is not utilized. It only has a sand box which honestly I don't see anyone ever use or for that matter want to use. I believe someone has started a petition.
I know this is an old thread, but we just started to actively work towards getting a dog park. We have not yet submitted the proposal to the CPD since we're working on ensuring we have community support first, however we'll be proposing the east end of the Jefferson Playlot Park as a possible location for a Dog Friendly Area. There's a FB group going in this effort - https://www.facebook.com/JeffersonParkDogLoversPilsen/ . If you're still in the area, please go like the page and sign the online petition. We'll get this moving!
Todd AgostoAnalyst/Investigator at Veritatem Cognoscere
There are quite a few puparents who frequent Jackson Bark. All routes to and from are less congested than going to the dog parks around the loop or northside, plus free parking is available. Click the map icon at the bottom of the page for directions www.jacksonbark.com
Agree with melirodgriguez! The small triangle next to the pool at Dvorak Park would be an ideal place for a dog park where many dogs are there most days anyway. I have taken my dog there many times and met other dog owners in the neighborhood who would love to have a dog park, new and old residents. For now, I do visit the dog park on Wabash in-between 16th and 18th which is a great park but a bit of a walking distance from Pilsen. There are really no dog parks for owners to use in the nearby area and it would be nice to have a designated space so dogs can run freely and safely.