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Added Jan 21 2018

Four people were shot at a birthday party around 1 a.m. Sunday in the 3200 block of West Division Street in the Humboldt Park neighborhood, according to police and witnesses.

The first fatal shooting happened around 1:15 p.m. Saturday at the bus stop outside the 69th Street station, 15 W. 69th St., police said.

In the double homicide, two men, 25 and 19, were shot around 3 a.m. Sunday in the 6000 block of West Belden Street in the Belmont Central neighborhood, police said.

Earlier, a 41-year-old man was fatally shot multiple times in the upper body around 2:20 a.m. while driving his vehicle in the 12900 block of South Halsted Street in the Far South Side’s West Pullman neighborhood, police said.

...and the 30-year-old woman were shot about 7:10 p.m. in the 2000 block of North Laramie Avenue, police said. The girl suffered a gunshot wound to the left arm and had her...

...man was shot in the lower back around 4:30 a.m. Sunday in the 5300 block of North Western Avenue in the Arcadia Terrace neighborhood on the Far North Side, police said. He was driving...

...year-old man was stabbed in the abdomen and wrist at a gathering in the 10500 block of South Wentworth Avenue in the Fernwood neighborhood on the Far South Side. The men were both stabilized at...

A 29-year-old man was shot in the knee around 2:45 a.m. in the 2300 block of South Oakley Avenue in the Heart of Italy neighborhood on the West Side, police said. He was transported to Stroger Hospital in good condition.

Around 1:20 a.m., a 24-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the foot in the 6300 block of South Morgan Street in the Englewood neighborhood on the South Side, police said. He was in good condition at St. Bernard Hospital.

...lower back around 11:40 p.m. Saturday while sitting in his vehicle in the 3900 block of South Indiana Avenue in the South Side’s Bronzeville neighborhood. Police said he was shot by someone in...

A 65-year-old man was riding a CTA bus in the 5600 block of West Division Street in the North Austin neighborhood around 6:05 p.m. when he heard gunshots and...

...old man was shot in the left leg about 2:30 p.m. in the 3900 block of West Arthington Street in the Lawndale neighborhood, police said, correcting earlier information that the man might have been...

Original article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-chicago-shootings-violence-20180120-story.html
Date published
January 21, 2018
    4 killed, 16 wounded in Chicago shootings, including 4 shot at West Side birthday party
    A quadruple attack on the West Side brought the total of the city's shooting victims to 20, including one man who was fatally shot at a bus stop outside of a CTA Red Line station and two men killed in a double shooting on the Northwest Side.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com
  • Gentrification can cause a different kind of crime - more break-ins. Lived at my place 60+ years, never had a problem until the area gentrified, then someone broke in while I was out of town overnight, along with 3 other homes.

    Amenities don't necessarily improve. The sidewalk in front of the yard that I bought in 1990 has been buckled for 40+ years (caused by a tree that the city planted in the parkway), it's never been fixed. The street next to my block has poorly potholes

    I don't object to gentrification, I object to people overpaying for property. One of my neighbors put her worker's cottage plus side yard on the market before the recession for $1 million. It was worth maybe $400k. She was looking to sell it to a developer, but no one would pay that much.

    Bought by someone with more money than brains. They put it on the market a couple of years ago, same price, wound up selling for a $200k loss, replaced by a 6-iniy double condo building.

    Increases in property values only benefit long time residents when they sell. In the meantime, their property taxes go up (but not their income). Even newcomers to my neighborhood were grousing about how much their taxes went up.

    People who've lived in their homes 25-30 years already have full equity. What they may not have is the money to pay a significant increase in taxes. Social Security recipients are getting less than a 2% COLA increase this year, which is probably not enough to cover the increase in taxes when the property is reassessed. So where will retirees get the extra money? Either go back to work, or sell their beloved home.

    You can't eat or pay bills with appreciated value.

    As for property owners not liking tax increases...one neighbor doesn't even claim her homeowners exemption (she's a lawyer, can afford it).

  • Again, you're making a micro argument for a macro concept. Gentrification didn't "cause" those individuals to become burglars, they made that decision on their own. As far as older home owners getting pushed out of their homes, you mean they lived there 25-30 years without making any plans for increases in cost of living, taxes, etc? These are just basic principles of planning a budget. I can sympathize with them, or course I'd never want someone pushed out of their home. But if the cost of living in any one given area has truly become cost prohibitive, then sell high and take your money. Get out while you're ahead and downsize if you truly are on a fixed income and can no longer afford your current situation. Isn't that kind of the goal in life ... use the equity you've built over the years to help sustain what's left? If I could wave a magic wand and help every single retiree live in their home for as long as they could, I'd wave that wand in a heartbeat. But that's just not reality. Hopefully all of us are speaking with and guiding our aged loved ones on a plan for their fiscal futures.

  • Gentrification didn't "cause" those individuals to become burglars, they made that decision on their own

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    I never said or even implied that. Burglars follow the money. There's been a big increase in package theft in the last few years. Then again, it could be due other factors, like people ordering more from Amazon, or lazy drivers just tossing packages into yards.

    Two years ago, one homeowner was outraged that his tax bill went up five fold. Most people assume that they'll be able to live on their Social Security and pensions (if they have one). Only 1 in 3 workers save anything extra towards retirement.

    No one could have anticipated the double whammy of increased taxes caused by the real estate boom and tax rate being jacked up at the same. It's not just taxes go up, homeowners insurance does too.

    So what happens is that retirees sell their homes and move out of state or to a retirement home (not cheap). When they run out of money, they go on public aid.

  • I don’t get your point, sounds like you’re in favor of keeping area prices artificially depressed. That’s not good for anyone.

  • There was a house on my block that was purchased for $155k in 2011. It wasn't even on the market, an agent offered the owners $390k in 2015. It was replaced by a 3-unit condo, the first floor duplex sold for almost $700k.

  • That’s the free market .... never going to change.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Sounds like a lot of people made a lot of money! There are people that have bad savings habits. Should all the rest who worked and saved be made to suffer because of them or maybe just the area that they live in? Just does not make any sense to fight that battle. If some one thinks a condo is worth 700K and has worked to pay that amount, who is to say they are dumb? The American dream occurring before your very eyes. Don't worry, be happy.

  • You're not getting it. By overpaying for housing, they are driving up the value of the neighborhood, which increases taxes for everyone. And if you've been paying attention to the news, Berrios' office has been overassessing poor areas while underassessing richer homeowners.

    Some people don't necessarily have bad savings habits, they just don't have money to save because they don't earn enough to own a home AND save.

    Increased taxes don't affect just homeowners, landlords have to raise rents because their taxes have gone up too. Apartment building owners pay an additional 10% on top any increase. How many people will have to move because they can't afford the higher rent? This happened to my nephew.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    The same amount that move in to where they lived. No one over pays. They pay what they are willing and able to so they get what they want and worked for. Berrios is just another reason to stop zombie voting dems back into office. Do you think dems will wake up and realize that dems in power right now are destroying Chicago and Illinois? I hope so, but i will not be holding my breath. Also the reason crime is so out of control in Chicago now!

  • @chi techie -- You seem to be living in a fantasy land .... I don't know what world you live in where the market doesn't dictate price??? You don't have to like it, (I never said I like artificially inflated home values), but it is what it is. If there wasn't a market demand for those additional costs, they would not have sold. And you don't have to tell me about fair tax policies, I live in Douglas and if you're looking at average property value/gross annual income, our district pays higher property tax percentages than any other ward in Chicago. It's a total scam .... but that only speaks to the cancer of corruption that permeates this city still. And we'll only solve that through voting these bums out!

  • Guess you missed the news about Berrios' office over assessing poor neighborhoods and undervaluing the property of the well-to-do.

  • Are you reading what I said?? "And you don't have to tell me about fair tax policies, I live in Douglas and if you're looking at average property value/gross annual income, our district pays higher property tax percentages than any other ward in Chicago."

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Guess you missed the news about Berrios getting reelected by zombie dem voters from poor neighborhoods that his office has been over assessing their property taxes for years! Go figure, he screws the poor, cuts taxes for the rich and still gets reelected!! I heard of dumb voters but these people are killing themselves to vote scum like this back into office!!!

  • Again, you're missing the point. There's a market for condos, and plenty of housing available, but what I'm concerned about are the few who are willing to pay megaprices for oversized homes that are out of character for the neighborhood. It's called Ukrainian Village, not the Gold Coast or Millionaire's Row.

    Have you ever been to UKV? It's mostly 2-flats and workers cottages. There have been creative re-uses too, 2 churches were turned into condos. But it's disturbing (at least to me) to see a row of cottages broken up by a modern 3-story townhome.

    The problem is that those cottages are too small for some people. UKV has been declared an historic district, but that didn't stop the demolition of a cottage on Erie.

    OK, I'm done. Time to move on, maybe you should too.

  • I'm going to move on too, but you seem to argue a bit in circles and the reality is we probably agree on more than you think. I can't stand when developers demolish historical housing stock and put up crappy condos. Part of the reason I moved to the Southside was all the historical gray stones and beautiful homes that line the area. But you're jumping from concepts of preservation, rent control and basic market principles that are never going to change. Money talks, and it always will. If a rich 'family' of two want to come in and build a mansion that's "out of character" for a surrounding area, they have every right to do that as long as they're not destroying anything that's historically preserved/protected under law or violating and zoning ordinances. Again, I'm a free market guy ... and since that's the system we live and operate in ... I'm thankful that's what I believe.

  • I was surprised that Claypool didn't win, but he has his own baggage. Forrest got 32% of the vote, but a significant number of people voted in the Republican primary instead, Everyone knows that Chicago elections are mostly won in the primaries anyway.

    Hard to vote for another candidate when there's only one name on the ballot, though progressives seem to be making some inroads.

    Even the "zombies" won't vote for Rahm, I'm guessing Vallas might be the next mayor.

  • Vallas?? Eeeek! This guy has literally failed at every single thing he's ever done/tried. Rahm is probably the one single incumbent I'd vote for in this entire city, he's done wonderful things for business in Chicago and is trying to undo quite a bit of the fiscal damage he inherited. The one fault Rahm has is the crime issue .... that's the one area I wish he'd bury his liberal tendencies and wake up. If he took the kid gloves off as far as handling criminals, he'd be a shoo-in.

  • What would you recommend as far as the handling of criminals? (I agree btw!)

  • Gentrification is caused by these sixth grade reading level parentless punks!!! I've said it once I will say it again....once the projects were tore down, the projects (folks) were spread all over the south side. This caused a major conflict of interest between the professional and middle class folks of South Shore, Chatham, Pill Hill and Beverly as well as others. Now the South Side is PRIME real estate, so it's better that the powers that be let the Gangs kill each other off and in turn force people to move out. Then the developers can move in and build where Junebug got shot. Sad but true. :-(

  • Where do I begin ... the core problem is at a legislative level. A few years back the Illinois Black Caucus began pushing an initiative that would all but make it impossible to convict juveniles of violent crime. Fast forward to today (after these initiatives were past) and car jackings have tripled, with the majority being attributed to minors. I just posted an article about a teen who was caught twice within 48 hours (with a gun) doing back-to-back car jackings. The sad irony here is that the IBC pushed these new legislative restrictions "because they were tired of seeing so many minorities locked-up." But of course, it's the black community who are overwhelmingly falling victim to violent crime in this city. If you ask me, The Illinois Black Caucus has blood on their hands. Aside from that, next we go after judges, especially the ones who have a reputation for giving repeat offenders a slap on the wrist. They deserve to be publicly called out. Next, we initiate a gun court - a completely separate system for individuals caught committing violent acts with illegal guns. You make the sentences swift, harsh, and long-lasting. Then, you decriminalize drugs. The asinine War on Drugs was one of the biggest blunders of state policy in history and only worked to decimate black and brown communities across the nation. Drug addiction is a public health issue, not a criminal one. Do all this, and we may start to scratch the surface. But, there are a million other social/cultural changes needed that we must first admit need harsh, open and honest conversations about. Until we admit that ... little will change and more will die.

  • @HP -- Good folks live in the projects, too. Some of these individuals work hard (sometimes multiple jobs) for less than a living wage, so 'projects' are sometimes their only option. We have to be honest about that. I agree with you 100% on the people who care nothing about personal responsibility and are only worried about having new babies so the gov will further subsidize their 'lifestyle.' But if we want Southside communities to come together and admit (with us) that this is a major problem ... we can't act like everyone living 'in a ghetto' is of the same volition. They are not. A lot of these community members want change and action, too! We have to create allies to affect change.

  • great ideas thank you for responding!

  • Douglas_Peep.........I agree with you also. I mainly speak about the ones who weren't on the lease or any lease to begin with. The ones who lay up on the babies momma. Then go out gang banging.

  • @HP -- Yes, there are cultural components that no one wants to touch due to fears of being labeled "racist" ... which is incredibly sad and counterproductive. True upward mobility and increased equity will only be possible in these communities when honest conversations are allowed to happen and not feared and/or censored.

  • Okay, I'm done.............My first post sums it for me! God Bless us All :-)

  • We need to stop trying to fix the blame and fix the problem!!! Okay, now I'm done!!!

  • HP -- I think you are misreading into what I said, I was agreeing with you, not assigning/dismissing blame. No one wants to have those tough conversations.

  • All is Well...........Have a blessed Day!!!!

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Douglas_Peep, WOW!!!! Well posted and 100% accurate! Now get rid of the trolls who scream racist when only facts are presented and a productive discussion can begin.

  • RAKARWOWSKI - Yeah, the problem is really two-fold: There really are racists who pollute the discussion from the start, but on the other side there are also identity politic leftists (racist in their own right) that scream "racism" the very minute you disagree with them. It's a toxic environment, unfortunately.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Douglas_Peep, I will buy you a beer, whenever and wherever you want! I would like to shake your hand and thank you for this discussion. Have a nice day.

  • And the Band played on...........

  • Bah! Well, I never pass up a beer.

  • Michael McDonough Resident of BelCragin

    Meanwhile all the gbangers have moved closer to the Brickyard and Belcragin.

  • Kapel Local Resident

    Michael, I like your comment on January 23rd regarding sending gang bangers to the front lines. In the 60s and 70s individuals caught being gang members were sentenced with a choice, jail time or military service time. That no longer happens and every time I suggest it I get a lot of flak and I don't understand why.

  • Philosophically yes, ha ha and what a great idea to send bad people far away from us.

    That would be one very expensive and risky way to keep our local jail populations low and to keep all of the various incarceration facilities closed that Tom Dart mothballed.

    The judges set them free for "no probable cause" so the process post-arrest is a horrible joke played at great taxpayer expense.

    Let me ask you this: What decent American would happily serve in the military next to a criminal with a gun? The reason they are in gangs is due to ignorance and horrible decisions. Not someone a good soldier would want by their side fighting for freedom and democracy.

    I'd rather keep the criminals right here in Cook County, attached to each other in chains, with rakes and shovels picking up trash. No guns for criminals please.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    I know two criminals I would like to be sent far, far away. Funny, a criminal who wants criminals treated badly? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

  • You're giving them way too much credit, these "hardened gangbangers" would be sniveling like little babies their first day in with a hard-nosed Drill Instructor. That's essentially the whole point of basic training / bootcamp, they strip your personal "self" and replace it with a standard-issue soldier's mentality. I'd argue that they'd make perfect candidates ... they'd essentially be replacing one "gang" for another, only the U.S.'s gang pays real dividends, can provide them with an education and the hope for a better life. I'd stand arm-to-arm with a former gang member as long as they displayed loyalty and honor ... all things that can be learned and taught. Banging is a learned behavior, so too is rising above it.

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  • Douglas_Peep, I see your point and I think boot camp and retraining might be worth a try. But I also like the blinding prison orange chained up to one another cleaning up trash in front of everyone. It would be a visual reminder that crime does not pay. Run for office, we'll vote you in, and let's do a dual project on this...

  • Kapel--Do you have a link that references sending criminals to Viet Nam?I did time in the 60s and 70s and I don't remember this.Specifically,I was doing 1 year for burglary when the Gulf of Tonkin incident happened and there were rumors going around that criminals were going to be sent to Nam but it never happened.

  • Kapel Local Resident

    don glendowne, while I don't have good examples of criminals being sent into the military from the 60s and 70s, but I do remember members of, or Wanna-be members of a gang called the Gaylords that got into trouble with the law being given the choice. No, they were not murderers or hardened criminals, but the one I specifically remember from high school got into trouble with the law for disorderly conduct (fighting in a gang brawl) and vandalism (graffiti). He disappeared from high school so I don't know if he chose incarceration or military service. I knew another individual around 1974 that was involved in a gang in Schiller Park and got into trouble. He went in the Marines (not sure if it was a court order though) and came back a much more mature and better person. Now, I do have 2 older cousins that back in the 50s (before Viet Nam) were given the choice of incarceration or military service. They both took military service, one Army and the other Navy. One of them was actually signed into the military by his own father. Things were definitely different then but I think one thing that made this more possible back then was the selective service or draft.

  • Kapel Local Resident

    chi techie good link but I really hope this isn't true or our military is in trouble.

  • Michael McDonough Resident of BelCragin

    Segregation doesn't cause crime, people do.

  • Jj

    Douglas peep, what do you guys mean by preparing for increase? As we get older our income goes down not up, while cost of living goes up. You pay for your home your entire life and at the end you have to leave.

  • Jj if you buy your house at 35 years old and stick with your standard 30 year fixed mortgage you have it paid off when you are 65. Then your housing cost dramatically and permanently drops.

    If you use your house like a credit card to finance vacations and things that you otherwise could not afford then it is your choice to enjoy those vacations now rather than enjoy having your house paid off when you become an old fart.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Or you could steal from your neighbors to line your pockets.

  • Michael McDonough Resident of BelCragin

    You wouldn't want to do that .

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    I would not. I have higher morals than that but I know a couple that lives a few blocks away who does.

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