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Added Aug 06 2017

...in critical condition. A 31-year-old man was shot in the neck on the 5100 block of S. Hoyne Ave. at approximately 5:44 a.m. on Saturday morning. He was a passenger in a...

Just after 11 a.m. Saturday morning, a 51-year-old man was shot after a verbal argument in the 3300 block of W. Washington. The man suffered a gunshot wound to the head, and was taken to Stroger Hospital in critical condition. 

...condition to Stroger Hospital. The victim was walking past a group of men in the 900 block of N. Central Park Ave. at approximately 4:20 p.m. when one of the men reached in his pocket...

Two men got into an altercation at a business in the 2700 block of W. 63rd St., and a 26-year-old man involved in the fight was shot in the side...

A man standing in front of a residence in the 1100 block of N. Lockwood was shot in the lower back. The shooting, which occurred at approximately 7:55 p.m., left the man in stable condition at Stroger Hospital, police said.

Two people were shot in the 2900 block of W. 40th St. at 8:24 p.m. Friday evening. A 20-year-old man suffered a graze wound to his chest and a 25-year-old woman suffered a graze wound to her neck. Both people refused treatment at the scene.

A 36-year-old man was shot on the 7500 block of S. Union at approximately 10:15 p.m. The man was sitting in a parked vehicle when he was struck by shots from an unknown assailant. He was taken to Christ Hospital in serious condition.

A man standing on a sidewalk in the 1600 block of S. Drake was shot in the right leg at approximately 11:20 p.m. Friday night. The 37-year-old man was taken to Mt. Sinai Hospital in stable condition after he heard gunshots and felt pain in his leg.

A 20-year-old man walked into Community First Hospital with a gunshot wound in his right thigh. The shooting, which occurred in the 5200 block of West Addison, happened at 1 a.m. The man was listed in good condition.

A man sitting in a vehicle in the 4400 block of N. Whipple was shot and seriously wounded at approximately 1:22 a.m. The victim, a 29...

Original article
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-violence-shootings-weekend-august-4-through-6-438771153.html
Date published
August 6, 2017
    11 People Shot So Far in Chicago Weekend Violence
    Chicago Police are reporting that 11 people have been shot in violence across the city this weekend. Nobody has been killed in any of the shootings, but two are in the hospital in critical condition. A 31-year-old man was shot in the neck on the 5100 block of S. Hoyne Ave.
    http://www.nbcchicago.com
  • emj1900 bp lifer

    They never should have closed Joliet State Prison...Didn't they close another one downstate as well?

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    Part 1 of 2

    Rar - I concur.

    In addition, I do not believe that social programs can be effective unless and until people feel safe and are safe.

    I remember a CPS high school teacher friend describing to me how difficult it was to work in a Roseland area HS. It wasn't because students were irredeemably stupid or didn't want to learn. It was because outside the school walls was a war zone. The kids knew their lives were at risk just getting to school and all day long they worried about how they would get home without being shot or otherwise attacked.

    If we want students like those to be free to learn, dream, and have positive aspirations then their community must be made safe. Not 10 years from now. Not by the 5th year of some feel-good social program that is the latest in a decades-long string of such failed programs.

    Now. Today.

    One problem has been that gun violence, drugs, and gangs are immediate threats to a community and every person in it.

    I don't know where you come from, Manti, but if it isn't from the heart of a murder ridden, gang controlled, drug fueled hell hole then you do not know what it is like to be a child whose only concern from the time he/she awakens until they go to sleep is staying alive. You could not know what it is like to be a child who lives in terror with a gnawing fear of death.

    What goes through the mind of a child living under such oppression?

    How can a child concentrate on educational subject matter in that environment? How?

    What can you expect from that child when he/she reaches adulthood?

    If we are to have any hope whatsoever for those children we must first MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES SAFE.

    (continued)

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    Part 2 of 2

    Not later. Not someday. Now. Today. Safety comes first so that learning, hoping, dreaming may follow. Without that, those children are condemned to a hopeless future.

    Without that, they become what their environment demands for survival. And the cycle is repeated, endlessly.

    What is required isn't pretty. But that does not make it any less necessary.

    Law enforcement must secure the streets.

    I am less concerned about hand-holding some drug dealing, murderous gangbanger and "reforming" him/her than I am about helping such victimized children and families. In fact, in comparison, I don't care about the banger AT ALL. He or she is the threat...the danger.

    He or she must be stopped by law enforcement and taken off the streets. Peacefully, if possible. But with appropriate force, if necessary.

    50+ years of one failed social program after another is enough.

    We can't save everybody, so we must concentrate on saving those who we can.

    Secure the streets. Make them safe. Give innocent children a chance. Only then do social programs stand a chance of helping THEM.

  • Manticore

    I grew up in a Clark Street rooming house.

  • CJC Homeowner since 2000

    Hear, hear Gil. What you laid out is common sense policing and politics. However, we now live in an era where politicians are more interested in getting reelected than in protecting the very constituents that put them there.

  • Manticore

    "Common sense" is all too common.

  • CJC Homeowner since 2000

    Common Sense is not so common anymore

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    CJC - ain't NOTHING new about that. What's new is the crime rate and the breakdown in values that allows people to do such horrible things to others.

  • Manticore

    Nothing like Prohibition in some respects.

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    Gil and CJC nailed it perfectly. Police work is essentially problem solving, and making sense out of the senseless. Politicians want to stick their noses in everything, including things that they do not understand, which brings me back to police work. They just don't get it. Making sense out of the senseless is hard to do sometimes without hurting somebody's pride or feelings. Sometimes police officers have to be unpleasant to get the job done. Politicians and most civilians don't understand that. The officers don't necessarily want to be unpleasant, but if being unpleasant is what it takes, then that's the way it has to be.

  • Manticore

    You guys can keep megadittoing each other all you want but the police ultimately answer to the people, not the other way around.

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    ... when people break the law they must answer to the law ... and to the police who are attempting to enforce it. and then (assuming the arrestee doesn't do anything suicidal) to a judge and/or jury. and then, i suppose, to the really tough inmates.

    people answer to the law - it's not the other way 'round.

    but hey, manti, do whatever you think is in your best interest. if you are wrong and you get caught you will find that even you are not above the law.

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    It's not quite that simple. While it's true that the police serve the public, police work must be left to the professionals. I don't know what you do for a living, but I do know that I am not qualified to tell you how to do it, then complain because you didn't do it to my satisfaction.

  • Manticore

    Triggered.

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    Gil Jimenez....Ok, what is the answer? What to do what to do.... We all get how this is affecting the younger kids. But remember, it's their own brothers /sisters/ mothers and fathers who are gang members or once were. The families all become deaf, dumb and blind when one is killed,shot or caught. Then we see them on tv crying and holding that 8th grade picture. Kinda late then right? Where were these parent(s) before then? Police or us can not break the cycle created. And tossing money and useless programs sure are not working either. Is it NOT the people themselves who must and should start to change their ways? Is it not time to actually see what some of the kids have become and get them help somehow? Just when is enough before people themselves take responsibility and wake up to what's really going on in their own neighborhoods and say NO MORE? For they know for the most part who these bangers and other trouble makers are.....When does it start with that?

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    emj - we must hold elected officials accountable.

    people get the government they deserve by electing and re-electing weak, self-centered politicians more concerned with elections than with doing what needs to be done to stop crime/criminals.

    the questions the pols ask themselves are:
    * "How will it play in the press?"
    * "If I endorse strong police action will the blowback cost me in the next election?"
    * "Will the interest groups turn against me?"
    * "Will Mike Madigan approve?"

    most pols don't really care about the carnage because they don't really care about making South Chicago, Englewood, etc. safe. not even the pols representing those areas do.

    remember: the CPD Superintendent serves at the pleasure of the Mayor.

    hold the Mayor accountable if you want things to change.

    people just do not know how badly police are hampered now by politically-motivated restrictions on what they can do. these restrictions are especially bad when it comes to drug arrests.

    and as you know, the illegal drug trade fuels so much of the street violence.

    ultimately, the answer lays in the hands of law enforcement. but again, the CPD Supt serves at the pleasure of the Mayor ... so he better not make waves that cost the Mayor votes.

    we don't need a police state. but we need a police department that is not hampered by someone else's political concerns. ... a CPD that can go into the high crime areas and get the job done.

    then, and only then, will the good residents of these areas feel safe enough to cooperate with law enforcement because as it stands, the only law in those neighborhoods is Gang Law.

    btw - when you hear about street shootings, car jackings, violent home invasions, robbery crews smashing cars into store to loot them, etc. on the N and NW sides of the city and downtown, do you really believe those bad guys are lone wolves with no gang affiliations?

    a good start to calming all the violence is vigorous policing to CRUSH THE GANGS.

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    Gil nailed it. Social programs are fine, but what do we do in the mean time while those programs start to work, if they ever work at all? Gil nailed the attitude of elected officials perfectly. From the Mayor on down, liability is more important then the actual problem. That is why police officers do not, and never will trust city fathers. The city concerns itself with the liability of a police shooting, then they do about the safety of it's officers. It took decades for the city to issue safety vests for it's officers, but they had no problem with insuring that some alderman receive police protection from thei constituents. Then there are the alderman who have drivers.

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    One can't hold anyone accountable when they themselves hold there hands up to (our so called ruling political figures) already seemed to surrendered already....I do not think NONE of them are grasping the real truth. Lord knows RAHM sure isn't....They themselves do NOT want to be held responsible for anything.....Think any of these clowns are going to take on the ACLU? That's who cut off the CPD's cajones off. Stop and frisk comes to mind. They won't even ask questions anymore. They just sit and watch......They know the who's and what's of these gangs, especially who runs them. Whatever happened to the RICO ACT they claimed were gonna end this nonsense? Smoke and mirrors is all we get. And you can say, don't vote for them....All well and a good....Most voters have short memories. So here we sit breaking the record so far from last year. Bravo...So much has changed.... not....I am really starting to believe they don't truly care either. Just carry on Chicago. And so far it has. Smoke and mirrors and lip service....Yep, carry Chicago and watch how many move out this year....

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    Well said.

  • CJC confirms what I referenced about Texas town making everyone have guns. Maine figured it out less crime, more LEGAL gun toting. Even street heathens don't want to be shot. Just evens the field out.

  • Please stop comparing Chicago to Maine. The population of Maine is 1/2 the pop of Chicago and ~1/8 the population of the metro area. It's really not comparable.

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    Is alcohol,the main problem,buy they do not want to raise the age to buy alcohol,people give alcohol to minors and then after they get them drunk,give they drugs,and manipulet them to do bad thinhs,,everyone knows that,even stores sell alcohol to minors,they should raise it to 30 years legal to buy alcohol,,they start drinking at age of 13,or 14 and then when they rich 21,they can get it everywhere on their own and drink like they feel free to drink anytime and when they reach 30,they already have alcohol problems,and then nobody knows how to help them neither parents.what about if we all get in the same page and call Bruce Rauner to raice the age to 30 to buy alcohol,,I think this will help a little..

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    I was just reading the yahoo,news,were it shows a guy, Mendoza was sentence to life in prison,for second degree murder,it say he was drug abuse and more problems,,when theu consume cocaine it dage their brain,,his brain was not working correctly,,but now he is going to be life in jail,,they should of find out,,who have him drugs,and how old was him and how did he start with drugs,,we do not know how did he felt when he needs another dose,the widrawls,,what we call,when they have not use it in a period of time..its very sad,,for the victims families,and for his family,,,NO WAY BACK,,AFTER IS DONE,,

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    Hmmmmm..... alcohol ? Any bum standing in front of the liquor store will get it for them for a shot and $5 dollar bill.... Perhaps they need to control the BULLETS they sell by marking them. Seems easier to keep track of them then guns. Seems any fool today can get a gun, that's a given, but it takes bullets...Stop that and they will be on to something....They can do it, they already said they could. So........ Why are they not doing that? Can't hold the gun industry responsible for the guns, but maybe for their bullets.....Let's see these idiots file numbers off of them....HA...

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    If they are drunk they will go to shot someone,,BUT IF THEY ARE NOT DRUNK,,they will think on consequences,to go to jail,,if they are drunk,they do not think,,the brain is slow,,and if they add another drug,,is more likely,the brain is not working,,and the ones manipulating them they know it,,thats why they start them with alcohol,,they are older,and they do not want to end in jail for many years,that what they use minors to do the job,,

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    One more think,,about a month ago,a father kill his daughter because suppostly she does not want to eat,,did you guys think he wantted to kill her,,NO,OF COUSE NOT,,but he most likely was using a type of drug,,one normal person can not do that,,we love our children,and do not want nothing to happened to them,,but drugs and alcohol make him irritated,were he did not know how much was he hurting the girl,it was a mixture of alot of drugs,,could be as little as nicotine,cafeine,alcohol,marihuana.all those mixing together,and could be more,,we do not know,they do not post everything..its sad, but,,its real,,you can go to 26 and homan and the flowers and teadys is still there..😭

  • I know the difference in size between Maine and Chicago. You missed the point, their crime stats are low in Maine because criminals know most common citizens are packing heat and there's a good chance they'll get shot doing the crime. It's a great deterrent and less costly than more police, courts, and penitentiaries.

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    Police have alot to do with this,,if they caught a minor in a car,when they stop them.why they do not take him,or her to the poluce station and DO NOT RELEASE HIM,OR HER until the parent pick them up,,if is a party,the police just go to the oarty and kick everyone out at the middle of the night and Do Not care if they are minors,in the party,and anybody can take them out,of detective office it does not have to be the parents,they DO NOT DO THEIR JOB RIGHT,,you guys remember when someone post a police officer sleeping in gagepark,,I will like to know what happened did he get suspended,or hire more officers like him,,and then they say,,we need more officers,,of couse,NO MATTER,how many they hire if they do not do their job,,it cam be millions and never enoght. 😃😃😃😃

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    If a minor get caught in a car with older people,take them to the police station make him a drug test,alcolol test,and call the PARENTS,,not aunty,not sister,uncle or friend, and charge the adults were he was with,from giving him those drugs..with this our minors can be protected from older people to be manipulated,,

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    It's ridiculous how they put a tax on sugar drinks but they never put the tax on alcohol why??l Did you guys see its fair,,I saw a lady in a sore she was buying a 24 case of pop,for 8.99 plus tax and total cost will be about 13 dollars,I told her,,are you paying all this money for a case of pop,,"she said,,ho,I am paying with the link,and we do not pay those taxes,,,so who are the ones that pay those taxes. And I change the theme on that,,but some one comented on this last week..

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    Emj1900 ..people think by calling the police they are doing a bad thing,bevause of their ignorance,,but calling the police,,they might be saving someone life,and saving someone to go many,many years in jail,,thats something they DO NOT UNDERSTAND, wich is better,go to jail for battery,or go to jail,for murder,,both families sufferd,,one for having their lids in jail,or the one lost thier children,,calling the police is SAVING 2 FAMILIES FROM SUFERING..

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    No one do something to stop adults manipulate minors,but when a minor does something bad,,THERE THEY Go ,charge them as adults and sentensing many years in jail,,AT AGE OF 18 THEY ARE NOT CONSIDER ADULTS, because,,THEY ARE NOT 21,,if they Can NOT buy alcohol at 18,,WHAY they are adults to go to jail and CHARGE THEM AS ADULTS..thats why I Hate the law,,State Attornys are NOT doing their job right,,or Judge,,only for their own convenience,,lawyer,are not working right,,they will get paid anyways,,and who hets the worse part,,the minors,,16,17,18,19,20,,Are still CONSIDER MINORS THEY ARE NOT 21,,

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    Even if you want to fix you parents legal papers,,you need to be 21,,and if they know they are 17 police will wait until he turned 18 go take him so he can be charge as an adult,,You guys think,police,state attornys,judges,lawyers are doing a good job,,NO,they DO NOT CARE,,because ,like I said,,they will get paid ANYWAYS,,THINK ABOUT THIS!!!,ALL THIS WEEKENED,PLEASE,and Ask an officer when you guys go to those Meetings. Its True,,all the things I said its true,,

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    Bandera......Hun....you lost me. Sorry but, there is taxes in liquor already. And they are way higher then this stupid sugar tax. And if our local government is oh so concerned about our health, people who use link cards should have to pay the sugar tax as well. What makes them so special? Sorry. As for "legal" paper fixing I have no clue. You are considered an adult at 21. At 18 you can vote. At 16 you can get a permit to drive.Unless they changed that. And also at 16 you can get a job. CPD is not going go around and arrest adults who have minors in the car. That is just insane.The ACLU doesn't allow them to even stop suspicious cars anymore. Guess it comes down to PARENTING...Which there doesn't seem to be a lot of these days. If one is not part of a solution, they become part of the problem.

  • tim14312000 parent; neighbor

    As a retired police officer who served this great city for 30 years, and after having read this most absurd, groundless, irrational diatribe by the last poster, not only am I outraged by the content of the posts,,I would like to remind him or her that reading and writing is a skill. When submitting anything in any discourse, that you want another individual to consider, first and foremost- have a point, get to some conclusion for writing. The first point Custodia Bandera makes, is drugs are at the root of all of the senseless violence Chicago has endured, that, and those adults who "manipulet" these innocent teens to shoot one another. The focus (?) then moves to alcohol and how teens are cajoled into drinking and then brainwashed into shooting one another. Custodia further asserts that there is no tax on alcohol, and of course we all know that there is one.

  • tim14312000 parent; neighbor

    The final posts, after having ranted about poor parents who killed their children because of the two aforementioned problems of drugs and alcohol, (mental illness? depression? That never enters into it I guess) concerns all of the non thinking,crass, insensitive malingerers of the Chicago Police Department, who ONLY care about their paycheck and cast a blind eye to all that is going on in society. ANYONE who believes that those who put on that uniform each and every day merely for a paycheck either has their head in the sand (or some other body aperture) or is sincerely uninformed.There are 10,000 Chicago Police. As with any group of this size, are there a few bad apples? To say no would be as foolish as the Custodia Bandera post, but largely the rank and file of the CPD do what they do because of their dedication to this city, the people that they serve with little or no fanfare when they do their job, the department, the law and their fellow officers. The Chicago Police, are governed by rules, federal, state, city and department directives. Most, if not all of the inane "suggestions by Custodia Bandera, are not only unconstitutional, but violate civil rights laws as well. In one submission, the poster encourages us to call the police, and in the following post says, "I hate the law. Police, states attornys, (sic) judges,lawyers are not doing their job." Thus we must assume that this is an orchestrated conspiracy by all concerned, at least according to Custodia Bandera.. I read Every Block because there are many informed and intelligent thoughts, ideas and opinions regarding issues of the day. This post was not one of them. I would have been remiss to not comment on this stream of consciousness inflammatory attempt at making some kind of point.

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    I said the Law,,do not interpret me wrong, and All I want is to do something about the violent crime,,but this is going too far agains me about my worries,,and I agree,,there is very good police officer ,,I never said there are all the same,,you guys get me wrong,,and interpret my worries in a different way,,I said I hate the law,,,not police not the ones that enforced,, maybe I did not explained the tight way. I am sorry if I did not explain it the right way,,Some people just wait for other ones to comment and then go agains them,,this is to comment and help,not to tske retsilations,,I meant. The way law iMADE,,not law enforcent,,and for kids,,thats my most worried..and sorry if like you said,,there is good and bad everywere, not every,police is nad,,not every,lawyer is bad,or every other but,,I will not make a comment no more,,all I want is that the kids get a little help,,thats all I want, sorry that mis understanding, 😭😭

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    This is like a spanish singer that sings to a bad man,,and does not mean all men will get offended,,if you are good officer,,you should not get offended,,or good lawyer,or good attorney,,you should be proud you are the good one,,and we are proud of the good ones that do a good job..I did not mean all,sorry if it was a mis understanding..

  • Custodia Bandera Custodia Bandera

    I ment judge,police,state atieney working together in a minor case,how they determine to charge them as 16,17,18,19,20 as adults,thats what I ment, I did not had nothing else in mind,..all this is a misunderstanding..sorry for all.misunderstanding..

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    Thanks Tim. BTW I don't believe that Custodia Bandera really writes or speaks that way in real life. I think he's laughing at us by insulting hispanics at the same time.

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    Kinda think you are right George. if you read Custodia's previous posts made, seems to be very selective as to how they speak and where. sad they think it's funny to insult hispanics.

    And Tim... Thanks. many of my son's friends are CPD as their fathers were before them. They have quite the hard job in today's world. I do not envy their job for it is NOT an easy one. Any man or woman who puts that uniform on day in and day out, is a far better person for wanting to try to make a difference.For it takes an awful lot to become a officer. A job so many would love to have but couldn't pass the mustard to become one. And when that uniform comes off, they are NO different then you and I.....For they too have families to go home too as well. They too have moms and dads, brothers and sisters, wives and children, who pray they come home....People do not get that. They are all not evil. Not all are bad apples. It's a job they choose to do come hell or high water. It's all about respect. And so many today just do NOT have it, practice it or teach it to their own. Enough said......

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    emj1900 nailed it perfectly. Not mention the missed birthdays, graduations, and family events. Then there are the crazy hours where sleep, and eating with the family are a luxury. Making sense out of the senseless, and being taken for granted by the city, who constantly renege on the contract, and promises made.

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    George F.....Known these men since they were kids ....all of them ... even danced at their weddings.........they lay their lives on the line everyday. and for what.. to be disrespected and overworked.... people just get it .....nor the toll on their souls and minds day in day out death and the human toll.....no thanks.... just sad.....RESPECT not so hard...But yet so little to ask for......I thank you.....for them....
    .

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    I get it. Been there and done that from 1976 until 2014.

  • @George F in Ravenswood, this ones for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B5ugSDkQqU

  • George F in Ravenswood displaced New Yorker

    Lol!!! I still have those clothes. Thanks.

  • artistmac Fuller Park resident, videographer, illustrator

    Where are the parents in these communities? Parents modeling proper behavior for their children; namely, that if you're having a disagreement with someone, you don't settle it with violence. How many kids in these violence-plagued neighborhoods see both parents get up and go to work, so that they realize that gainful employment or legal entrepreneurship is the path to long-term success?

    How many of these kids see their parents read for pleasure and intelligently discuss the important issues of the day? If parents are either absent, either physically or emotionally, how will kids know what qualities to look for in a life partner?

    Or is the problem that the fathers (and, increasingly mothers) are in gangs themselves, and the kids grow up thinking that lifestyle is normal? If that's the case, all the police the city can hire and all the money the government throws at social programs isn't going to help.

  • emj1900 bp lifer

    @artistmac from your lips to God's ears......sad reality is they do not see a problem. same ole same ole.....

  • SCC Northwest sider my whole life.

    The parents are serving lengthy prison sentences for trivial amounts of illegal drugs.

  • RAKARWOWSKI RETIRED CITY WORKER, CLEANING UP HUMBOLDT PARK

    Not in Chicago where you have to kill more than a dozen people before you get jail time.

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