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Added Jan 12 2018

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-illinois-attorney-general-candidate-robbed-20180111-story.html

    Candidate for Illinois attorney general robbed at gunpoint
    A candidate running for Illinois Attorney General was robbed at gunpoint while he was taking promotional photos for his campaign Thursday afternoon in the Northwest Side ward where he's also the Democratic committeeman, according to his campaign manager and authorities.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com
  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    Yes, we are Chiraq.

  • Don't tell Rahm that!!!

  • Gil, after this experience if elected this politician do you think he will improve things, make them worse, and/or maintain the status quo?

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    hum, sadly, the jurisdiction of the AG's office is sooooo limited that it has virtually no jurisdiction to do anything meaningful with regard to crime.

    they watch over charities, FOIA disputes, state IG reports, state tax cases, and "official misconduct" cases ... only the feds and state's attorneys have dibs on official misconduct cases, leaving the ag out in the cold.

    i dealt with them periodically when i was a state deputy IG. most of the time lisa's people just whined about how they needed more authority.

    the ag's authority comes from the state constitution, statutes, and judicial interpretation.

    so, to answer your question hum - however much any ag candidate says he/she WANTS to make changes, beef up enforcement, etc. - it's just not in their wheelhouse to do much and the state constitution isn't going to change any time soon.

    but i do not think it's their fault. the office just does not have the jurisdiction.

    that said, it is a sad thing that the brazen scumbags who robbed the candidate and camera crew apparently feel they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want, any time and place that they want and do so with absolutely no concern about being stopped and/or arrested.

  • Artist girl Artist and Muscian

    This is horrifying! So brazen at 3:25 PM in broad daylight. Even though Chicago has gun laws, the criminals know how to get them easily, from either Indiana or Wisconsin, or just stealing them in Chicago. The amount of car-jackings in broad daylight have increased also. We don't have enough police force on the streets to deter these things, hence the criminals are more brazen.

  • Artist girl understands gun laws dont work

    Wish other people did

  • robin in WRP I support a 28th Amendment 4Free & Fair Elections!

    The problem is that gun laws aren't consistent across the country

  • Exactly, Robin. I've read that something like 35% of the guns used in crimes here were legally purchased in Indiana.

  • chi, it's more like 20% from what I've read

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html

    interesting map.

    My question if guns are so easy to get outside of Chicago, why aren't there more crimes committed where the guns are????

    Because Chicago enables criminal behavior.

  • Or maybe because there's more gang activity here.

    CPD is trying out a new program that seems to be working:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-englewood-violence-20171207-story.html

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    the penalty for gun crimes should be mandatory 30 year imprisonment without parole. this includes licensed vendors who facilitate straw sales.

  • That's not going to help, your dealing with people who don't care & have no respect for human life!!! May-B if the government can find a way to amend RICO laws to apply to crimes involving guns where a person loses everything, they have might be somewhat of a better solution!!! Or we need to bring back the chain gang!!! Hard labor as a penalty!!!

  • Multiple offenders, yes. A teenage punk on his first offense? No.

    Hard to prosecute dealers in other states who facilitate straw sales. If it happens in Illinois, take away their licenses and destroy their inventory.

  • Gil Jimenez Private Investigator; IL concealed carry trainer

    yes - that's it! you are on the right track! now you are getting the picture.

    we can disagree on how the laws and enforcement should be changed, but we agree that they MUST be hardened and changed.

    keep it up. more ideas are needed. and they need to be voiced in in protest, in public, in spectacle.

    logan square is turning into a shooting gallery. you will join to raise your voices...the only question is how many have to fall before you do.

  • Artist girl Artist and Muscian

    beezil, According to the FBI, roughly 60% of guns used in crimes in Illinois were from out of state. https://www.chicagocriminallawyerblog.net/2017/09/where-do-all-illegal-guns-from-chicago.html

  • Artist girl Artist and Muscian

    From the article I posted, "Indiana has really lax gun laws. Gun dealers are required to perform a very basic background search while a vendor can sell their “private collection” to anyone at a gun show without any background search whatsoever. So someone can buy an assault rifle at a Crown Point Indiana gun show without any background search, and drive an hour into Chicago, where assault rifles are banned."

  • artist, I saw that. FBI is a solid data source. The 20% I was quoting was for just Indiana.

  • Artist, I've been to several Indiana gun shows. I haven't been to a single one where I haven't been required to go through a background check/atf 4473. I don't know how these criminals are finding work-around's, but the FBI data shows they are.

    I don't want to start another convo, and I am not trying to change the subject, but for the records, and technically speaking, NO ONE without a class III license can buy an "assault weapon". Crimes are not committed with fully automatic weapons. Although the anti gun establishment has been successful getting people to regurgitate completely inaccurate and illegitimate vernacular, I won't do it. No one is buying an "assault weapon" in Crown Point, or anywhere for that matter....No one any of us would have to worry about anyway.

  • Artist girl Artist and Muscian

    So, what these criminals do is that they have fence guys who have legitimate licenses, who buy the guns for them, either for a fee, or the sell the guns to them after purchase. And also, there was the case where they stole a whole bunch of guns form a train a few years back. The criminals have ways to get these guns, to skirt around the laws.

  • "but we agree that they MUST be hardened and changed."

    TRUTH!

  • Artist, I was thinking of that boxcar theft! One would have to assume those are already being traced to violent crime.

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