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Added May 13 2012

Rahm, all you do is bark and whine- meanwhile we have to look at crap like this:

The city lacks greenspace and with all your millions and your connections you can't even replace dead trees!!

DO YOUR JOB ALREADY!

  • Jen K 22-year Lakeview resident

    I was under the impression that most of the plants & trees on sidewalks are planted & maintained by the adjacent property owner and/or local merchant's association. That's certainly true of residential properties, and don't see why it's any different on commercial streets.

  • Kim 25 year Northside resident. Area volunteer.

    Have you called 311? That's how you report the need for a new tree in front of a specific address. And, even under Mayor Daley, there was a long wait.

  • Inactive user

    We have waited for over four years for a parkway tree. I wouldn't hold my breath.

  • CJL ...

    "I was under the impression that most of the plants & trees on sidewalks are planted & maintained by the adjacent property owner .... That's certainly true of residential properties"

    In Chicago? Perhaps on a "reality" basis, but technically, the parkway trees are City responsibility, being on city land and all. Have had my parkway tree trimmed by the city twice.

    Yeahyeahyeah, if you want it trimmed *well*, or it needs any sort of special treatment, that's on you.

    "We have waited for over four years for a parkway tree."

    Have had at least two neighbors get parkway trees within the same calendar year. Maybe you've been blacklisted, Greg.

  • The city plants a certain number of trees each year. You need to get your request in early. check with your Alderman.

    Perhaps no one has requested trees at that location.

  • Alex M. Jeff Park, web design, DJ, thinker

    Whatever...let the greenery die if it lowers my taxes and cost of living.

    Spend the money on better schools and more police officers on the street.

    Perhaps neighborhoods should fundraise and plant the stuff themselves.

  • Jen K 22-year Lakeview resident

    Huh. You learn something new every day. The city actually has a lot of info on its website about trees planted on parkways. (I didn't know that was the technical term for what I call "the stuff on the other side of the sidewalk.") Whether it's legally the case or just what the city hopes to happen, this doc seems to indicate (in really confusing language) that the property owner may have responsibility for maintaining the greenery:

    "Many improvements in the public way are installed by private developments as part of the requirement for new buildings and
    major rehabilitation projects thus the responsibility is binding on the developers and subsequent property owners or any other parties having a controlling interest in the property....Property Managers can assist with the continuing public way maintenance effort by...Promptly replacing damaged or dead trees, shrubs and ground cover in parkway area."

    http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/streets/supp_info/CareoftheChicagoPublicWay.pdf

  • Todd Farkas

    Yeah, I've called 311 but I really have to blame Rahm on this one.
    I mean this is a really simple problem to fix- across the entire city.

    Buy 20,000 trees from some nurseries at a bulk price and start planting- even if you have to have county jail prisoners do it

  • CJL ...

    jen k:

    note this, from your link:

    "After the 5-year full maintenance period, contacting 311 to report tree problems in parkway areas while continuing to perform maintenance on parkway area."

    That's tailored to new construction projects, and professionally maintained properties, rather than 1/2/3 unit residences.

  • CJL ...

    "I mean this is a really simple problem to fix- across the entire city.

    "Buy 20,000 trees from some nurseries at a bulk price and start planting- even if you have to have county jail prisoners do it"

    Yeah, I'm sure we wouldn't have the Dept of Foresty's union complaining about *that* plan.

    Also, note that Forestry does plant thousands of trees every year. Just perhaps not as replacement for ones that a developer was supposed to maintain.

  • Walk-About One Eye Open

    Sound like you got more against "Rahm" than you care about "trees".

  • ep2986 25th Year In Logan square.

    True Story, I was Fined by the city for Cutting down an overgrown Weed in front of my house. It was there when I purchased my home.The plan was to plant a nice OAK Tree at my expense. But no no no, leave it to the city to fine me for cutting down the weed and trying to be green. Shame on you Rahm.

  • Mayor "E" has implemented a revised system using tracking numbers to monitor progress, and kicks in a time limit factor that warns officials that job is still pending, till done. Also things like garbage pick up won't follow ward maps anymore, just general areas. What Ash trees they did treat, also went across ward boundaries. This way, every class and race will share. This is nice when I tell people outside of Chicago, that Ash tree treatments were done in all types of areas, not just the influential wards. Hope this plan works out like it is intended to do.

  • Inactive user

    E-Block guidelines state: "Stay on-topic. Remember, this is a neighborhood-focused site, not an anything-goes forum. There are plenty of other places online where you can talk about stuff beyond your neighborhood; let’s keep EveryBlock focused on neighborhood issues. If you’d like to discuss a citywide or nationwide issue, please be sure to mention how it relates to a specific location or issue in your neighborhood. Support questions and feedback about EveryBlock should be e-mailed to the community management team."

    This post violates this guideline and should be deleted.

  • Hey Studs,
    Could you be more specific about your objection, and to which posting you refer? I got yours after Scott Concertman so I jumped to the conclusion that that post is your target.
    Im uncomfortable about EB and anyone who posts and makes general objections that lack specificity. If we're talking Lincoln Park, SC post is relevant--not sure that I understand it, but it is on point and relevant.

    As for Rhambo, my guess is his response would start with an "F"; trees seem a low priority. Problem is that "make no small plans" is from a giant of foresight. Rhambo has not yet convinced me that he is in the same league when it comes to planning and foresight.

  • Overall, many more trees have been planted in the past few years than ever before. As for some people in here that associate tree planting with high taxes... Trees are needed...without them we all die. Finally, Rahm has a plan and the city pays the cost for YOU to but a tree and plant it in front of your house or business... you don't have to wait on the city... look it up... there is a native plants rebate program that pays up to a couple hundred bucks (More than enough)... So,plant a tree in front of your business or hope and water it.

  • Curtis

    The city lacks greenspace and with all your millions and your connections you can't even replace dead trees!!

    In what City do you live?

  • Inactive user

    Becca has made clear that this site focuses only on neighborhood issues. This post, headlined "Hey Rahm..." by Todd Farkas does not relate anything about how this relates to a particular neighborhood. Becca and Everyblock must enforce the rules fairly and evenly, unless, of course, the management of this site is encouraging these kinds of vague attacks on the mayor. As Everyblock's very own rules state: "There are plenty of other places online where you can talk about stuff beyond your neighborhood; let’s keep EveryBlock focused on neighborhood issues. If you’d like to discuss a citywide or nationwide issue, please be sure to mention how it relates to a specific location or issue in your neighborhood."

  • Rachel writer, indexer, editor, researcher

    Actually, Studs, it does. It identifies the neighborhood as Lake View and includes a picture of a specific dead tree. Yes, it could be more precise as to location, but it's not as rule-bending as you're implying.

  • Inactive user

    Rachel, I understand your point, but perhaps I'm overly sensitive to the vague application of the rules with regard to the removal of posts and comments. It is unfortunate to see what appears to be favor afforded to those on the right.

  • Pete F. Lifelong Chicagoan, Proud Democrat

    You realize that this topic was dormant for over a month before being resurrected. The original posts took place in the span of less than a day. Perhaps, with the hundreds of posts (if not thousands) per day across the country, and the extremely small staff at EB, they didn't see it before, you know, it dropped off the feed due to its own lack of pertinence.

    That's all a moot point, anyhow. Politics plays little role in these things. The post just didn't violate the rules, Studs.

  • Inactive user

    That's your opinion, Pete, and I can respect it without agreeing with it.

  • Sorry for confusion ozlock. I meant that someone should call city about THIS dead tree, especially since Lincoln park has visiting tourists that will go home and talk about what they had seen. The tree pictured is of a dead young one. First few years is most fragile, maybe needed water. I have seen forestry remove dead ones all in one swoop, just wish they would replace them with live trees. Studs, I will try to sharpen my pencil point from now on, but with Mayor "EM" trying to blur ward lines.....'EB' site is so cool 'cause it's not just about Chicago, but targeted to "our" very neighborhood...10-10 and on the side listening.

  • Inactive user

    A Tree Dies in Lake View... This is what Mayor Rahm should make a priority? If this is what concerns you most, you don't need a neighborhood site, all you need is a mirror, that's how small your world is.

  • You might be looking at life through a circus mirror. Sure space travel and landscaping trees are not a priority over human needs like hunger or crime. But a society that neglects the simple things, probably isn't doing the important stuff right ether. One dead tree adds up to many, in a big city. Anyways, girls like hearing about sappy stuff like the names of stars, or what trees are native to Chicago. Knowing your surroundings shows you have your %$&$ together. And yes, it is for my enjoyment too, when I look in the mirror. The list of people thanking me for my post on how to save their Ash trees from EAB, is growing everyday from the everyblock site. This is the perfect place to get my neighborhood news out. So remember when all the big Ash trees die in Winnemac Park, it just wasn't the Mayors priority to save one or two, or even replant with new. Even gang graffiti is just an eyesore, like the dead trees. (don't tell that to my parents friend who invented the graffiti blasters system, his priority is retirement now)...All is not well, in my small world of Chicago.

  • Inactive user

    Scott, I didn't say that those things don't matter. I simply asked whether they should be priorities for the mayor at this particular point in time. Nothing prevents members of the community from learning, caring, or, crazy as it might sound, tending to these things themselves instead of calling 311 and whining when a city worker doesn't show up five minutes later.

  • Right on Studs! I just came back from Columbus park, where I sprayed the outside of a Jens Jensen Ash tree, to kill newly laid EAB eggs. Waiting for the city would surly doom this century old Chicago park district tree. They would need Mayor EM to pass along more monies, by just saying yes for 1 second of his time. Just like you said, I have learned a lot in one year about something I did not care enough for, our native trees & works of Jens Jensen on the West side parks & OP-RF. If owners take care of what they can on their own, they would not growl about "Paid for THAT to get done by City with my big tax payment"...One can not just argue "that money spent there, should have been spent for something else". Not so easy with budgets. Grants have even tougher rules of not sharing (Check city budget on line and see our Cities lottery winnings of grant $'s).....SOMEBODY COULD MAKE ART OUT OF THIS TREE. See ya Studs & Y'all on other postings around every block.

  • Barbs hey you kids, get off my lawn!

    "I mean this is a really simple problem to fix- across the entire city.
    Buy 20,000 trees from some nurseries at a bulk price and start planting- even if you have to have county jail prisoners do it"

    It's not about simply "planting" them. They need to be nurtured the first few years, they don't just magically grow and thrive when we have temp extremes, or no rain for weeks on end. We have 4 new saplings on my block, and NOT ONE of the neighbors has bothered to water them. So, I'm running my hose out and watering them once a week on my own. Did the city put "care instructions" in their mailboxes? Apparently not. One of my neighbors actually said he doesn't "like" the tree that got planted for free by the city, and he moved my hose. I think he's hoping the tree will die if he neglects it!

    That dead tree photo you posted? That dead tree is not the city's fault. If everyone would report them, they'd be removed, and eventually replaced. But if no one calls in a problem, there are no "tree inspectors" going around looking for dead trees to replace.

    AND, do not get me going on the way various city entities are incorrectly MULCHING the trees on city properties. Many are being "volcano mulched", and it's going to kill those trees. Who do I complain to about that?

  • Inactive user

    if I may share Scott's enthusiasm, the trees don't care who cares for them. They die or live depending upon what nuturients they get and when. Call 311 and watch it die or get the hose. It ain't a space rocket. It's a tree. You can do this, even if you're a Republican.

  • For the first few weeks, trees are just like new Grass sod, they need watering everyday, then once a week. Oak Park may have let old Ash trees die, but their City trucks come and fill the olive colored trickle water bag twice a week on new replacements..."Barbs" is doing such a thoughtful/simple thing. Plus she gave us insight on why one owner would let a tree die. Forestry Dept. would instruct workers on applying mulch...I am taking my own advice, and attending a meeting with Chicago park district next month, to tell them they might be "mulching under an inch", possibly bringing EAB in when Cook County jail workers apply new mulch batch around park trees every year. CPD caught me fixing "Volcano mulch" around some pkwy trees. I told them how it is not good for tree, and they went home and fixed their own. Studs is right about my enthusiasm, and I would caution anybody with the best of intentions, when it comes to neighbors. Almost every Chicago parkway tree was born from the "ORD" (Chicago O'Hare Orchard nursery)(1970's-2005)...IF A PKWY TREE NEEDS HELP AFTER AGES FIVE TO ONE HUNDRED, THAT'S ON THE TREE...Mayor Daley had planted tons of D.E.D. proof Elms.(Accolade, Regal ,Yankee) Plus Hackberry, Black & Honey Locust, Kentucky Coffey tree, Sycamore, Catalpa, hardwood Maples, Horse Chestnut and even White Swamp Oak. An aeration compressor can help loosen compacted clay ground. In nature, a tree dies and gives nutrients back to soil by composting. Parkway trees take nutrients with them when removed, and new tree has poorer soil to start with. If citizens would have to pay City directly to plant their trees, would they take more care? Aldermen should be proud to survey ward trees, but Streets & sanitation's Forestry division has that job. Best tip for tree owners: Keep looking up!

  • Barbs hey you kids, get off my lawn!

    Scott, you sound like my kinda people! Are there any organizations in the city for folks like us who love the trees we have? I keep thinking we need to start a PR campaign about the damned mulch volcanoes, and the care of saplings, but I'm only one gal...

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