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Added Jul 17 2017

They seemed to disappear as winter arrived. Just noticed they are drifting back into my neighborhood again. Two of them were actually sitting on the back steps (leading to the basement) of my building just before noon on July 4. I came back a couple hours later and there was a wet nap and an unused condom in a wrapper lying on the steps. Nice. Saw another one ambling down my street with a couple of male friends the next morning just before 6:00 a.m.

My question is, what's the most effective way of getting these, ahem, ladies out? Police? (311? 911?) Alderman? Any other suggestions?

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Tired of Liars - Some of what you wrote in reply does not apply at all to the issue of prostitution and much of what you wrote does not effect immediate change to the current problem.

    Some of what you wrote is simply illegal. For example, "Make Summary Arrests of all suspect behavior within those zones agetnd [sic] any other nearby areas which the "usual suspects" attempt to migrate." The laws of this country DO NOT support summary arrests for suspected behavior. If you are advocating for our laws to allow this then you are opening the door to trashing the Fourth and Fifth Amendments to the US Constitution.

    You wrote: "Begin by committing to an approach to eradicate the problem." This is a presumptuous statement and an insult to your neighbors who have invested time and effort in dealing with the issue. It presumes that prostitution, or any other criminal issue, can be eradicated. Please point to any law in the history of the US or any penalty imposed that has eradicated the subsequent commission of crime. Long prison sentences have not eradicated drug-related crimes and never will. There is over forty years of data related to the "War on Drugs" that demonstrates this. The imposition of long sentences for weapons charges does nothing to eradicate the illegal use of weapons. In short, eradication is an unattainable goal.

    So, based on your multiple posts, you do not seem to have any actionable and LEGAL remedies to the issue of prostitution. Many of your suggestions are illegal and seem to suggest an adoption of authoritarian rule. To this I would say, "Be careful what you wish for because you just may get it."

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    MA, that's called "Crime Prevention".

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Pedro Garciano - What is called crime prevention? Rewriting the Bill of Rights is crime prevention?

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  • Why do you want to create homogenous individuals?

    Cheers to raising minimum wage, though. Wouldn't have thought you'd be on board.

  • d3 NOH

    How close is this to 1762 Estes?

  • Much closer than it is to 1522 W. Juneway Terrace. That's how close it is. Is that a good answer to your question d2?

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Spitting distance.

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  • Shore_Line

    great post as i've been looking for "women of the night" since dart chased them off the internet and the yuppies shooed them off of north ave.

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  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    drove home from work between 11:00pm-12:00am the last three nights and the hooke colony is present on the west side of Clark from Lunt to Estes......business as usual in ERP as the SLOJOE sells political integrity to the highest bidder and trats criminal activity as if the perpetrators are victims. While these girls are quite often victims of their own self abuse (substance abuse) their activity is criminal and the symptoms can easily be curbed through arrest. It would be a start towqards providing remedy. Now, about those boys selling rocks and smack at Rogers and Sheridan, and Estes and Clark who foster this activity.............

  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    add Rogers and Greenview to that list

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Tired of Liars - I am not even going to take the bait on the political ax you seem determined to grind. I am confident voters are able to separate the fact from the fiction and hyperbole in which you traffic.

    However, I specifically want to challenge you on this quote you made, "...While these girls are quite often victims of their own self abuse (substance abuse) their activity is criminal and the symptoms can easily be curbed through arrest..."

    Gee, "Liar" you make it seem so simple. I wonder why the men and women assigned to the 24th District just cannot swoop these women up, as you suggest? Is it laziness? Is it wanton disregard for the law and failure to live up to their sworn duties? You seem to be painting the officers and command of the 24th District as either incompetent or slackers. Or do you have another explanation?

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    "Political ax you seem determined to grind" ROTFL

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Pedro G. - I thought it clever too. Happy you agree.

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    "I have no political ax to grind; I just find it absurd that huge billion-dollar corporations..."
    Adam McKay

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    ^Huh? How does that relate to anything?

    Take a breath buddy! No need to get upset!

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    Nothing much, just that your "clever" statment was made by others, years ago.
    Just that.

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Pedro G - "An ax (or axe) to grind..." is an American idiom. The fact I was able to weave an idiom into my reply is, indeed, clever.

    Thanks so much!

  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    I have no explanation, I am seeking one as to why this chronic ac tivity in these areas goes unchecked.

    Conversely, the "axe" you label me as wanting to grind doesn't exist on a personal level. It is a reaction ahgainst an impotent local administration and criminal justice system which are both more sympathetic to these individuals as victims of imbalance and environmental conditions rather than poor decisions by their own volition. Take the sources of illegal narcotics; crack, smack, illegally sold pharmaceuticals, and whatever other illegal substances these factions are trafficking and using away, and 99% of the problems will be addressed. They certainly aren't attacking this problem in the ERP area as they should. Our administration is a joke, more concerned with foie gras than in human life.
    If you think Kim Foxx is going to do anything but cry about lack of funding, or address these criminal problems through prosecution you are mistaken. Do you think that these individuals don't know what they are doing is illegal?

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Tired of Liars - You claim you have no ax to grind and then proceed to launch into a rant over how politicians are failing to clean up drug sales/availability.

    Contradict yourself much?

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Clearly the answer would be to place a sober home along this corridor and continue the decades long tradition.

  • Gabriel Resident of PRRP

    Many of these women are victims despite their use of drugs (many have been trafficked). There is also money being made on criminal enterprises like this, and it goes beyond the obvious. The web of drugs, prostitution and robbery produces a great deal of money and is a major economic stream feeding various interests. But when cities and wards want to "clean up" or move street enterprises like this such as when a site becomes a tourist area, business center, or upscale residence neighborhood, there is more "success" in at least moving the operation to some other unfortunate community.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Locating a sober house in the area described seems a questionable move. Especially if the previously operated home at that location contributed to the ongoing problems associated with this thread.

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Bruce_ - Is there evidence of such a corrolation?

  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    The positive of having the new women's sober living house is that it is going to be run by nuns which should insure that there is some integrity to the administration. Conversely, to the best of my knowledge, Sober Living Houses are generally unregulated and policies are subject to the caprice of the operators. I know of one group operating several of these houses that will only take cash payments from their residents, and the administrators are continually buying more real estate to convert to expand their operation. The cash basis of their business, combined with a few of the complaints that I have heard from former residents such as lack of enforcement of quiet hours, and constant theft of personal property makes me question whether we should have better oversight of these unregulated facilities which are basically mental health facilities.

  • JohnL Happy in Edgewater

    Sounds like an excellent idea if it is run by nuns.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    There was so much crime with the former tenant that they were shut down. Several facilities ceased to operate around that time. Not certain which dots connect to the opportunities on Clark.

  • Better oversight for sure. These for-profit drug/alcohol rehab centers are often responsible for more misery than recovery. NfaC and I agree on a second thing? Crazy.

  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    Bruce, I am not sure what you mean by "the opportunities on Clark," but from my perspective it needs a major "sanitation" by law enforcement in late evening hours.

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  • d3 NOH

    Everyblock fails at basic moderation once more.

  • d3 NOH

    Everyone should flag this thread as it's obvious the mods don't want us talking about the problems or solutions

  • Tired of Liars Sick and Tired of Self Serving Lying Politicians

    ...and Howard street is a chronic cesspool in both day and evening hours.

    Q:Why don't those people ever look for jobs?

    A: Because they don't want to work for a living and disingenuous politicians seeking political support want to enable them to remain popular with the factions which are sympathetic to their self induced plight.

  • Michael Archangel Donald Trump - A compulsive liar.

    @Tired of Liars - Doing Q&A with yourself? Is that supposed to make your opinion seem more credible?

  • d3 NOH

    Probably keeps randomly getting deleted. This moderation is sh...

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    They need union representation.

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  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    ^Being "progressive" means to tolerate all opinions. Not just the ones you like.

  • Manticore

    Being open-minded doesn't mean I have to let my brain fall out.

  • Rob

    "Being "progressive" means to tolerate all opinions."

    No it doesn't.

  • Being "progressive" often includes rejecting historical prejudices and bigotries that perpetuate discrimination and oppression. As a progressive I do not tolerate opinions that are based on prejudice and injustice. The issue of "hookers" is complex and all too easy, as indicated by some of the comments in this thread, to address with little more than a list of archaic prejudices, judgements and discriminatory biases. Some of the comments are as retrograde as Fred Flintstone era thinking.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Catholics vs Convicts, who will print these tshirt?

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    Oh, Live, so it doesn't matter to you that they break the law and spread disease?

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    Is that the famous "social justice"?

  • Manticore

    Free running dogs spread disease.

  • Pedrito I offer you the RED PILL, that's all.

    Manticore, do you go to the beach Downtown? Do you have a doggie?

  • Manticore

    I go all over town, but it's obvious that dogs have to spread a certain amount of disease.

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