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Added Jul 02 2014

I don't want to be a killjoy, but on the fourth (and the 5th and even this past weekend) our neighborhood sounds like a war zone from the fireworks that go late into the night. The next day there is literally a stench hanging in the air from the smoke and debris everywhere. Does anyone call the police? I just read that technically only sparklers and other non-explosive fireworks are legal in Illinois.(http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.dsp_content&contentID=8442)

  • The fireworks at Winnemac are pretty awesome but for anyone with children, do be very careful and ready to shield them. I've not heard of any serious injuries yet but 2 years ago I witnessed some fireworks shoot straight into a crowd of people.
    Oh, and lots and lots of smoke from the fireworks. Hope everyone has a safe and fun time this holiday weekend!

  • TD

    I find the people who blow off the most have no business spending money.

  • Chandra Lynn Dagley Pre-Medicine Chaser From AP

    Thank you On the block, I will definitely keep that in mind, hopefully they have gotten better at controlling the direction of said fireworks, nevertheless I will take care to get plenty of space between us and the fireworks and make sure to take my long lens

  • Chandra, the Morton Grove fireworks are great, combined with their carnival. Plus you can get there by Metra or CTA.

  • RT Here

    The "thug" element in our neighborhood are always the ones blowing stuff up for a whole week until the wee hours of the morning. In the past I just cranked up fans in our place and dealt with it - it never really bothered me. But the past couple years some dudes were setting off the loudest fireworks I have ever heard. It scared the hell out of me and especially my kids. Some of these would send debris reigning down on my roof! I snapped last year after the 4th bomb went off well after 1:00 AM. I ran outside in my underwear (after making sure my place wasn't on fire), and teed off on these guys. These grown men (not kids) just laughed and said something back to me in Spanish. No matter, these types have no idea what respect means in any language. And that is the problem that the "killjoys" have. Fireworks are great - in a controlled environment. Who doesn't agree with that? It's the complete and utter lack of respect that is shown by some bad seeds in our neighborhoods.

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  • RT Here

    Likewise!! My neighborhood is blessed you don't live here!! Happy 4th!!

  • RT Here

    That was meant for Tas..... no GBH.

  • So, I guess the lesson we have all learned today is: If you're bothered by people engaging in disruptive and illegal behavior in your neighborhood, you just gotta' suck it up. There's no middle ground. People illegally blowing stuff up at all hours of the day and night have an undeniable right to do that and shouldn't have to tone it down or make any compromises under any circumstances on behalf of their fellow citizens to whom it's like nails on a chalkboard. So, you should all remember that the next time someone sprays graffiti on your garage door or drunk drives over your yard and plows down your fence. Suck it up, people, it's just all in good fun!

  • No one said that. We said, enjoy the Fourth, don't do anything stupid.

    Read Neil Steinberg's column in the Sun-Times today.

  • ebar3189

    It's the 4th of July and people are celebrating nationwide.

    Vandalism and driving while intoxicated are a whole different topic.

  • Ah, eb3189, so celebrating with one illegal and dangerous behavior that many consider a nuisance is o.k., because you say so (and possibly do it yourself), but the other illegal and dangerous behavior isn't o.k. because you say so. Got it.

  • ebar3189

    I didn't say so. JOHN ADAMS said so. But do you even know who he is? Probably not, because you use the internet as a way if expressing your complaints as opposed to a source to do some research. I'm posting a link to a great piece of history. . Which you probably won't read because clearly you've never invested time in becoming a well informed person.. but anyway here it is:

    http://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/popup?id=L17760703jasecond&page=L17760703jasecond_3

  • RT Here

    Yea, that's applicable.

  • eb3189: It's nice to know that someone else does the research too!

  • It surely is sad to see this that thread which began as a simple sharing of points of view, now has sunk to insulting one another. I would think discussion is possible among people who live nearby without being so unnecessarily mean and confrontational.

  • I know, i never would have thought fireworks could be such a polarizing issue?

    @gbh, i actually agree, i too have issues with the little punks who are reckless and aim in the street. Just as the ones who fire guns masked by the "works." And, its 11:30 on the 4th and now im annoyed at the people still blowing the rest of their stash! BUT........i would STILL NOT call the police!

  • Just walked by Sawyer and Sunnyside. The intersection is completely littered with used fireworks, nobody in sight to clean it up. In my opinion we are simply too dense of a neighborhood to be shooting off fireworks.

  • I'd rather they use it up, like right now, than annoy me with over several days. Drip, drip, drip, like water torture.

  • It's almost 4:00 AM and fireworks are STILL going off somewhere in the neighboring blocks. It's difficult to tell which direction because the noise echoes off the tops of the buildings. Now it's just become a public nuisance. People are sometimes just f-tards.

  • John Adams does not write the current laws. Just because John Adams said fireworks were ok in the late 1700s does not make all modern laws making fireworks illegal invalid. They are still illegal. I really do not understand why this is still an argument. So many people claiming their "right" to use illegal fireworks and in violation of noise ordinances because "it's fun" and their "right." Bet you're the same people who go to a bar, suck down a few drinks, and then get in your car and drive home because "I've only had a couple, I'm fine" and "I have the right to drive my car. This is America!"

  • ebar3189

    Just because IL is a state where politicians have appeased the "busybodies" that vote for them. However, they are perfectly legal in WI, IN, etc.

    If fireworks kept you up then that's your problem because I managed, i was asleep by 11am. Why couldn't you figure something out? Maybe your one of those people that can never be happy and will always miserable. Sucks to be you.

    Anyway, I'm off to work.

  • I'm for the legal kind of fireworks. No one here has advocated M-80s or continuing past eleven thirty pm.

  • Robin in Rogers Park Owner of Cats in the City, LLC

    My views, for what they are worth:

    I can't change the noise
    I don't like it
    I've decided to not let it bother me, even though I am up early to work today
    Oddly enough, my cats don't care
    My new outdoor feral kittens's hungry tummies voted over the booms
    The people shooting this stuff off may not be originally from America - sad
    I am sure most participants know nothing of the Declaration of Independence
    My windows were open, but I was safe from anything flying in because people stopped shooting them off in the alley outside my windows
    I do feel badly for the PTSD veterans an others with serious issues (those on O2, etc)

    I still realize I can't do a darn thing about this time of years' noise

    For myself, I've learned to go with the flow and ingore the racket

    I slept fine with my improved mental outlook.

    Tonight will be noisy again - it will all wear off soon.

    Happy Birthday to our Country - it is what it is.

  • Robin in Rogers Park Owner of Cats in the City, LLC

    Ambulance sirens bother me more since my dad had 12 ambulance rides when he was ill 3 years ago. I am on the road daily with my work and I encounter 2-4 ambulances a day (and sometimes fire trucks).

    This is truly post-traumatic stress for me and I deal with it daily. My heart sinks each time I hear a piercing siren in the distance and know it's speeding my direction. Even distant sirens cause me to freeze in my tracks and cover my ears.

    The sounds of some refrigerators or freezers mimic my dad's ventilator at one particular hospital.

    Ambulances, fire trucks, refrigerators and freezers are a part of daily life and I must deal with them.

    Car horns sound just like my mother's telemetry going haywire when she was in ICU...I cannot run from those either in our car-horn-beeping-happy society.

    A few days of 'bombs bursting in air' feel like small potatoes for me as I must cope daily with the regular sounds of life that remind me heavily of my parents being ill and dying.

    Somber, memory-triggering stuff - just my story.

    (My mom left home in an ambulance too - not a pretty memory either...)

    My life goes on - July 4th is a few days of people who are going to make noise. I don't know what else to say....

  • Robin: (and I say this with sympathy)... Your PTSD seems to have more to do with other issues beyond your perceived dislike for the Fourth of July, and how Americans traditionally celebrate it. I do think you should seek help, either through your church or professionally. I know many who have been in actual combat, and yet actively celebrate the Fourth of July, yet do not flinch at the mere sounds of everything you describe. Once again, this is not meant to sound disrespectful.

    The day is over... the mess cleaned-up, and we all enjoyed a nice weekend celebration which will likely continue amongst some (myself included) with Barbeques and relaxation and above all, rememberance...

  • Robin in Rogers Park Owner of Cats in the City, LLC

    Rob, I don't dislike the 4th at all, I think you misread my posts, but that's ok! It's difficult to really communicate online.

    I was making a comparison.

    Read my post before the one you read and responded to....(I posted it below)

    I am fine - I was making a comparison, but thank you for your concern!

    I worked all day yesterday, which was a drag because seeing fireworks would have been great!

    I do not dislike July 4th at all...:-)

    Thanks tho for your concern!

    Here's what I wrote in my first post:

    I can't change the noise
    I don't like it
    I've decided to not let it bother me, even though I am up early to work today
    Oddly enough, my cats don't care
    My new outdoor feral kittens's hungry tummies voted over the booms
    The people shooting this stuff off may not be originally from America - sad
    I am sure most participants know nothing of the Declaration of Independence
    My windows were open, but I was safe from anything flying in because people stopped shooting them off in the alley outside my windows
    I do feel badly for the PTSD veterans an others with serious issues (those on O2, etc)

    I still realize I can't do a darn thing about this time of years' noise

    For myself, I've learned to go with the flow and ingore the racket

    I slept fine with my improved mental outlook.

    Tonight will be noisy again - it will all wear off soon.

    Happy Birthday to our Country - it is what it is.

  • "The people shooting this stuff off may not be originally from America - sad
    I am sure most participants know nothing of the Declaration of Independence"

    What exactly does that mean?

  • Dan on Monticello Neighborhood Guy

    I'd guess those are the vile thoughts of an unabashed bigot; and a hypocrite if they check their family tree.

    While not a big fan of fireworks myself, i don't see why anyone should be excluded from joining in; US citizens with many generations of roots here, naturalized citizens, immigrants waiting for citizenship, undocumented immigrants, visitors from other countries, even people IN other countries.

    As far as not knowing anything about the Declaration of Independence, i'm pretty certain that if American History knowledge were a requirement to use fireworks a lot of us would be surprised to find ourselves excluded.

    One thing i will say, is that this country WAS founded on an ideal that you could come here from ANYWHERE and hopefully prosper under our rules of law and the ability they afforded to do so.

    Our system has many flaws that seem to fly in the face of those ideals; but questioning the right of anyone to participate in the celebration of those ideals is NOT a value most of us hold, i hope.

  • Do we have to know about St. Valentine to send valentines?

  • TD

    If you are sending inappropriate valentines.....then yes...you should read up on it.

  • It's truly amazing how many of you are so retentive! We live in an URBAN environment with lots of other people...there will be good, bD and annoying, deal with it and to the princess with her elitist "we don't have such tings in overly white wealthy areas like Lincoln parking lot and old town" good for you snob . Perhaps Winnetka would be more your place then. I love how those of us with half a brain are thumb downed , but it's all good, we have more fun anyways and don't get caught up in snobbish elitism. Boo hoo, if you don't like others then MOVE out of the city, my problem solved! And...the whole "half aren't even Americans" is the single most xenophobic, classier, racist comment ever. They ARE AMERICANS celebrating the FREEDOMS they may not have had, so would you rather fireworks ?or real crime? Thought so. It seems all you naysayers shouldn't even live in a small city none the less the second city (in 3rd place, lol) most of the immigrants left oppressive countries for a better life, which yours did the same thing , obviously you don't seem bright enough to put it together, but think about it and your bogus, whiny post!

  • Jairmy, this post is two years old and fireworks are illegal.

  • While this thread is 2 years old, I think Jairmy is correct to call out Kim R.'s vile, mean-spirited comment that "Most of the people setting them off in this hood aren't even from this country."

    Taking part in traditional American activities like fireworks, sports, backyard bar-b-ques, etc., are some of the ways immigrants assimilate themselves into American culture, and we ought to applaud and encourage this. I'm glad to see so many newcomers celebrating this most American of holidays, and there's no better place to see it than right here in Albany park, one of the most diverse communities in the United States. I hope the neighborhood fully tears it up with firecrackers this year, and I hope that Kim R. tears her hair out in frustration over all these new Americans joyfully celebrating. Everyone else, have a safe and happy Fourth of July! :)

  • LauraLiz 20 year North Side Resident. Transit junkie.

    Agreed - that particular comment is unfair, hurtful, and unnecessary. However, living in an urban area is not an excuse for those people to blatantly ignore how their behavior impacts those living around them. In fact, that's an argument for why we need to be MORE aware of how our behaviors impact those around us. Setting off fireworks around 4th of July weekend is fine and I think we can all learn to live with it as a reasonable celebration of the holiday. Setting them off for 3 weeks before and 3 weeks after the holiday is really self-centered and inconsiderate and shows no regard for others.

  • THX, from my perspective as a naturalized US citizen born and raised somewhere else it upsets me to see folks from other countries or originally from other countries breaking the law. Integrating means observing the laws and rules of the country where you are or were a guest. That's how I've always felt in every country I lived. Unauthorized fireworks are never welcome.

  • @Struwwel - My friend, there is nothing more American than breaking a dumb, uneccessary, law. Fireworks are legal in most states, there's no reason for them to be illegal in Illinois, and defying that kind of petty restriction is a tribute to the very spirit that founded this nation.

  • Laura S. neighborhood resident since 1987

    @THX1138, I agree some laws are just dumb and meant to be broken. I don't mind the noise and I think they are fun. But some of the fireworks blown off in the neighborhoods are not meant to be used in such close quarters. I'm so afraid of a garage catching fire from a spark or malfunctioning firecracker.

  • ward greenleaf Smokey and the Bandit, Hooper, Cannonball Run...

    Working several years in Englewood really helped me to differentiate between gunshots and m80's

  • THX, some find that Illinois regulation absurd and others find it necessary and fair. All US citizens I happen to know in the area dislike the obnoxious noise. The law agrees with them so visitors, foreigners and guests of all kinds could also find it in themselves to agree. I find the noise caused by all those random illegal pyrotechnics beyond annoying. The average citizen doesn't differentiate between some of those and gun shots. It's alarming and stressful considering the situation we are dealing with in the US at the moment. Based on last year's precedent the ones who should be trying to stay off the public radar were the ones who bragged louder. If Darwinism has any validity, things will fall into place eventually. And sorry to say this but the ones I mean are not willing to integrate or assimilate. They have their own agenda with full disregard to our standards of coexistence.

  • Spam Alert Don't be selling your used junk up in here, okay?

    Compared with a couple of decades ago, this is nuttin'. We used to call it Little Beirut in my neighborhood. Started weeks before and carried on for at least a week post 7/4. I always half-expected my roof to catch on fire.

  • I don't know buddy, over by Pulaski and Sunnyside it's still little Beirut

  • and remember, gunshots are a muffled pop. :)

  • Someone blowing off really loud fireworks last night. How is that fun? At least so far no messes left to clean up.

  • I hate the 4th. It's the worst holiday ever. I have to get my dogs fed & walked early because they won't go out into the war zone once the firecrackers start. I also have to drug them up because they get panic stricken. The I spend my whole evening inside with the ac & tv's on to try to mute the noise. I was trying to sit on my deck and I had debris from from the firecrackers falling on my head! In the morning I have to go out & sweep up the mess. What about MY freedom to enjoy this holiday?? Why do we have to cater to the masses of idiots that want to blow out their eardrums ( and hopefully a few fingers) with those darn loud things. It's all just noise from M80's now. If you want to see fireworks go to one of the shows. Let everybody enjoy the holiday.

  • Bob Kastigar 15 Years North Park, bike rider, retired

    The 5th was quiet, contrary to predictions.

  • Don't over buy fireworks. Go to one of the park displays.

  • So many of you are whiney, butt hurt, cry babies....wahhh! Deal with it. People are going to blow firecrackers and blow up a can or ten. This has been going on for quite a while and all thw whining in the world wont make them stop! And to all you poor wittle babies who "thumbs down" and mute dissenting opinions are just that....whiney wittle babies! I cant stand the constant 3am explosions either, but thats whats great about a free country, we can take it or leave it. We all know its gonna happen, so, what do you do? DEAL WITH IT LIKE THE REST OF US! Complaining just makes you look foolish

  • Thx1138 and a few of you other enlightened folks get it at least! Im the last person to call b.s out as i see it. But so many eb'ers have lost touch with the reality of living in a sucha diverse country where so many of us are just greatful for what we do have! Could be better, but could be much worse....like Iran or the maldives (no dogs allowed:( so, dealing with someones version of CELEBRATION may be to your dislike (perhaps you need to get out more) but, thats whats great.....they can celebrate and you have the right to whine on e.b and waste the polices time from solving REAL CRIMES by calling over a loud boom that does ANNOY most of us but isnt hurting anyone, where is the logic? Wake up and find something better to butt-hurt about, like taxes, murder, inequality, you know....the REAL ISSUES that effect many more of us!

  • Spam Alert Don't be selling your used junk up in here, okay?

    A few composition tips which you may find useful in anticipation of bumping this thread in 2017:

    1. Use paragraphs, as appropriate.
    2. Back off the all-caps.
    3. Don't use that tired old trope: "you shouldn't discuss X on this discussion board, because in Y country people are dying of Z."
    4. Save the repetitive use of "butt-hurt" for use around teen and t'ween friends. Unlike grownups, they think it is *so* cool.

    See you next year!

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