So what does that mean? Are we going to have gang fights on that corner at some point? Their actions are so juvenile. It makes me sick. Do I have to worry about my son riding his bike down the block during the summer!?
@Riff not sure what garage you are speaking about but the recent pictures I saw show a 5 pt crown, LK, and upside pitchfork. A king would have tagged that. The upside down pitchfork is a diss toward Folk gangs, which Aztecas are members of.
If it was Aztecas tagging the crown would have been upside down and the pitchfork right side up.
Neighborhood watch might be the best idea at this point. Gotta catch people in the act and let them know they're being watched. Also, not that it's gonna happen, but yeah, more police patrolling the neighborhoods in our area. It's a must.
We are researching surveillance cameras for our property located in the area of Agyle & LeClaire. Just noted that Menards has some wireless security cameras for indoor and outdoor placement starting at $119.00. ADT and various security companies have been out for estimates. The best system for us is a system we can watch remotely from our computer or phone and has night vision. We could ask about a "group" discount for our neighbors. Or if anyone has any info to help us with security camera research we would very much appreciate the help.
That link I posted a few posts up is what I use. They are web enabled so I can view from my computer, work computer or smartphone. I have 4 totals cameras, 3 are currently inside the house to monitor the dog walker and we set all 4 of them up to record motion when we're out of town. You can also set up email/sms notification is there is an event. Below is a picture I just grabbed from my front door cam, it's pretty dark outside I can see clear to the street.
I live near strong and leclaire and have cameras all around my building that I have connected to a monitor. I do have night vision which can see pretty good at night with a zoom in feature these are wired cameras though. I think the wireless are good too my neice has them just had some problems with rain interference. Theywork fine and are pretty reasonable. I'm glad so many people have cameras. I know my neighbor also has them and he sees some of the property i cant .They never know if someones watching them or getting enough footage to see there face or even a plate number
@Riff: "sadly our area is becoming very active because of a gang situation that started in albany park."
I live in AP, in the 33rd, and am an active poster on EB for that area. I follow gang activity very closely because I have lived near a hotspot for 6 months. I'm no gang expert, but I am aware. I am dearly sorry to hear about your gang taggings, the damage to property, and everything else.
If you are dealing with Aztecas, your problems did not come from Albany Park, Aztecas are not an active gang in AP. We do have an active Latin King set. Latin Kings are very large in Chicago, and occupy many neighborhoods through out the city, even Jefferson Park.
Your situation becoming active is not a result of a situation that began in AP. AP gangs are primarily Spanish Gangster Disciples, Spanish Cobras, Simon City Royals, Familia Stones, Latin Kings, Conservative Vice Lords (who's activity comes closest to JP area), and recently a little Gaylords. But no Aztecas. When you know your gangs, and you know their borders, and learn how to read their tags, you can anticipate some of their movements.
I don't know enough gang detail to tell you what corners JP sets occupy, there are some other AP posters better at this than me.
I spent 2 months researching DIY security cameras. I finally installed one 2 weeks ago. I'm in the middle of writing a VERY long detailed review of it, but it's not complete yet.
What I learned when reviewing the cameras is the wireless ones are not worth it, in my opinion. Both the rf wireless, and the networked wireless. The range was just too short.
There is not a single camera that is perfect. You have to weigh what you are looking for. My criteria was I wanted a networking camera, outdoor, night vision, didn't have to leave a computer on to record the video, could watch the video remotely at work, could watch video on my smart phone, and would send me emails with screen shots when motion detected.
It's not cheap, it's about $300. But it's hi def video. It was effortless to install. So far I love it, and I have felt much safer since I set it up. It satisfied all my requirements. The video quality is amazing, the night vision quality beat my expectations. I plan on installing two more of these cameras around my house.
I'll have a full review up in AP EB in a few days.
@chris that's a nic cam good solution using power line networking. I already have a 5tb NAS on 24/7 and plenty of wifi coverage around my house that's why I chose the cams I did. But for someone without a NAS that camera with the on board storage is a great option
I am happy to see that there is a ton of interest in resolving the graffitti and gang issues in this area. We have to fight this problem and assure that it doesn't spread beyond control. Gang activity is simply unacceptable and will not be tolerated, especially near a school. Let's have a large turnout at the next CAPS meeting and make this the #1 priority. In the meantime, let's get the current graffitti cleared up.
There are cameras that hunters use for game tracking, they take pics without flash. If someone has one and can find a indiscreet place to set it up. Having pics of the perps would be a big asset to put them away.
Also, I am attempting, with some help from OldIrvingAnna, attempting to write a letter that all Albany Park and Old Irving Park community and civic organizations can sign off on as a joint letter sent to our mayor and our aldermen stating our disapproval of this Graffiti Blasters change. If there are any here that represent JP community org, civic orgs, or block clubs, please contact me through email on EB.
Maybe Alderman Arena can have a couple more of those great photo op roll calls on the street. How about this crazy idea, get the staff levels back to the level they are supposed to be at in the 16th dist. and lets not forget all the tax payer tact teams that go to 25, and 15...I HAVE HAD ENOUGH
@S.L.Ick..it really is getting ridiculous..I kept my word and stayed up till 3am last night..but so did an unmarked car and a squad car. They were parked at each corner. I wouldn't mind being part of the neighborhood watch, I just think that as summer approaches, things will just get worse. We should put something together as it gets warmer out. I will be at next CAPS meeting. I don't know if that is the place to discuss a plan? I have never experienced anything like this and I don't like it:(
I know I and my spouse would be willing to contribute to neighborhood watches. If someone has an idea on how to get one going, please let us know! SBV has got a good point regarding the nicer weather and increase in misconduct: said the same thing to my kid before sending her off to Roberts Square Park this afternoon.
Oh WOW! I said the same to mine! These good kids were so wanting to go to the park and get fresh air and sun...and here I am putting the scare into them...they ended up not going and doing something else.
These gang bangers are not going to harm you or your kids at RS Park. The last thing you all need to do is abandon your efforts to enjoy the frills and opportunities the park provides. They don't go around tagging in broad daylight and if more than three punks who look suspicious, are acting in illegal activities, or anything that seems unsafe (it's called gut feeling) - your have your phone CALL 911 and let the cops handle it. While you're at it snap a photo so the cops know what they are wearing or what car they jump in to just in case they scatter...
Please people we are not having a gang war with guns blazing and people needing to stay inside.If you are going to stay inside in fear,the bad guys have already won.And don't be scared when the neighborhood teens are out.They act like that because they are teenagers.Ray makes some great suggestions.
I just called in some tagging on some business along Higgins. Some on a corner building and mostly on the sides and rear of the CVS. Goes to show, it's not contained to Argyle/Leclaire but spreading. I'm not trying to cause alarm...just trying to stay on top of it. I didn't feel this warranted its own thread so I thought I'd just hitch a ride on this one.
It doesn't have all of the different sects of gangs up, but it might allow you to identify some of the tagging that is occurring. Also, trying to decipher what some of the signs mean can be a bit tricky. My first class in grad school was Chicago Gangs (MA in Soc at DePaul). What we learned was: upside down symbols is a total disrespect of that gang; RIP obviously is for a gang member who passed, anything with a slash is a disrespect.
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Found a new recent video the Honor Roll Students from here have uploaded. I can't post where it's at here, due to the "EB community guidelines" . Email me and I can give it to you. My email is in my profile.
Someone touched upon this in a single post.. but let us bear in mind that a lot of these problems encroaching into our neighborhoods now are largely due to Section-8 housing found in the apartment buildings and some houses.
People who come into this area that normally would a) not be able to afford housing here nor b) freely choose to live here as opposed to their nation's normal neighborhood.
So they move in and see no other gangs established. All it takes is for one or two of them to go ask their original set for permission to create a new set in their new neighborhood/corners and presto.. they now have a new chapter of their gang in the area.
So they now have to hold the corner down, make money (i.e. theft, drugs, etc..) and they either start to recruit kids from the neighborhood or move in more from their original set.
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@tom using the hazy "Community Guidelines" here on EB, linking to that video could possibly lead to EB banning a user. The video's content, I think, falls into a " do not", set by EB. Here's the EB link and quote from the URL:
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Hello fellow neighbors! Nice to see everybody getting involved with this situation. I was born and raised in the albany park neighborhood, but we got out due to the increase in gang avtivity. After living in the harlem/irving area for 5+ years or so, it was like a breath of fresh air, a whole new world, compared to what i was exposed to most of my life living in the albany park neighborhood. We just moved to the jeff park area, just a couple blocks away from the leclaire/argyle intersection, a little over a year ago. At first i was happy living here and for the most part felt safe and at ease. That was until, after dropping a child off at beaubien one morning, i noticed the gang graffiti murals on the 3 mentioned buildings, and my jaw dropped! I felt like my whole life had just rewinded and i was back living in the "hood" again. I did one time have 3 gangmembers who were standing on the corner on elston and foster with all black hooded sweatshirts throw up gang signs at me and yell out gang slogans as i drove past, but i figured they were just lost or something, as they looked a little nervous, so i just ignored them and kind of laughed it off. I do like the neighborhood for the most part, except for the increase in crime i been seeing and reading about. I do understand that in all reality gangs will be gangs and they will do what they have to do to hold up their honor and reputation, and i have no problem with that, it is their life, they are grown, and good or bad, they do as they want, just like the rest of us. However, one thing i dont agree with is the fact that they are fighting over a "set" that is so close to an elementary school. That corner belongs to the kids of beaubien, and as grown men, they should open up their eyes and realize that. CONT...
I never been in a gang, so im not too sure, but i doubt their code of ethics has anything to do with harming innocent children??? Or any innocent person who isnt involved in any gang activity??? Now a days the gangs are all out of order and have no structure. I remember back in the day when the REAL gangs were all about PROTECTING your neighborhood, and not destroying it!!!! They were sort of like another form of police, where if somebody who wasnt part of the neighborhood came over and started stealing, or raping, or killing, then that person would be dealt with, even if the victims werent part of their gang, but now it just seems like the tables turned and now they are the ones tearing up the neighborhoods instead of making sure they are safe. Well back to the whole graffiti thing, apparently the latin kings are claiming that as one of their "sets", as well as a few other gangs, there is a video on you tube that shows these guys right on that corner in the middle of the night doing idk what, i really didnt want to mention it, but im sure they wouldnt mind the publicity. Just go to youtube and type in albany park lks, it looks like they are driving in circles in this brown van, not too sure, but if you dont feel like watching the whole gangbang video, just fast foward to 1;10 and look at the street signs, i believe it is also listed as one of their territories on the chicagogangs.org website.
@chicago born and raised, i have never heard of a "gang protecting the neighborhood" . i think you may have meant to say "vigilante groups" as they protect neighborhoods in the way you described. A gang is a group of recurrently associating individuals with identifiable leadership and internal organization, identifying with or claiming control over territory in the community, and engaging either individually or collectively in violent or other forms of illegal behavior. ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang A vigilante is a private individual (or (pl.) group of individuals) who undertakes law enforcement without legal authority http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante
Simply put, punks with no direction, no courage to be their own man/woman. A bunch of weak followers who have no spine who either have no father figure in their lives or have no family values. If ever there should be 'censorship' it is for those who post their illegal activities on the internet for others to emulate. Granted, the videos taken can still be used by the police to assist in identifying and charging perpetrators of crimes without the need to post on the net. No respect from me ever!
However, there are other ways and their is hope. I am part of a youth program for kids 4-14 which uses rugby to channel those who need guidance, strength and to learn how to respect one another through sport. Additionally we are all very happy that one day one of our kids may have a shot at being Olympians with rugby being re-introduced to the 2016 Games in Rio.
@JP Savior - Thanks for posting all the addresses and descriptions. I emailed the alderman's office.
I live pretty much right next door to one of the houses that was hit. I am all on board with getting involved with other people in the area to combat this crap whatever way we can. I do agree it needs to be a joint effort with the police though.
I'll help anyway I can too. I'm turning any footage I capture on video on leclaire in even if I just see them walking by in the middle of the night usually these kids are checking car doors. My neighbor has some good cameras so they have no idea how many are getting them on tape now were going to catch them.