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Added Feb 20 2014

I am planning a move to Chicago this summer. I will be moving with my husband. We found an apartment that we love located at 4520 N. Clarendon Ave. in Uptown. It is directly across the street from a park which will be perfect for our dogs. I am 23 and my husband is 26. I may come home at all hours of the night due to working at a hospital and I was wondering if this area will be safe for me to walk alone. Also I will take my dogs to the park to do their business, so I was wondering if this park is safe. We are moving to Chicago from the suburbs of Saint Louis Mo and we are very excited to live in Chicago, so any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

  • Ricky B Rogers Park

    I lived in Uptown for 1.5 years. I loved the area. There are some sketchy places, but you'll learn where not to go and when. Don't let everyone's negative comments get you down! The benefits of the area outweighs the bad.

    My dogs loved the park. Also, Tank Noodle is a must :)

    Enjoy it!

    Ricky

  • I wanted to thank everyone for the info. We have not completely ruled it out, but we are still looking at other options. We will be visiting the area at day and night next time we are in Chicago. I will also be contacting the local PD to get their input also. Also if we were to choose this apartment I would avoid the el and take a bus.
    PS a few people asked about our area that we live in now: super white, super suburban. Most of our neighbors are retired and we get a phone call if they saw someone walk onto our porch, drive by slow, etc. There is literally no ethnicity anywhere in our subdivision. Now that being said, we hate it. Never having to worry about our house is nice, but there is nothing to offer a young couple with no kids, and who are not planning on having kids. Every restaurant is a chain and is incredibly boring with terrible food, and when an ethnicity restaurant does open they get ran out of town within a couple months. We get invited to BBQ at neighbors houses but all they do is grill us on when we will start making babies, etc. Just not our style and we want a change, hints Chicago!

  • mike

    Look at "Arcadia Terrace" which is north of Lincoln Square, West of Andersonville (south of Peterson, Lincoln to Western). There isn't much here, but that's probably why it has low crime. The houses are affordable too, but you need a car. Good luck with your search!

  • TechniGal in Ravenswood Used to work in Ravenswood - still love the area.

    I work in Ravenswood which is west of Uptown. After reading what you just said, you may like Lincoln Square, which has many different restaurants (not chain), coffee shops, and many festivals. It's close to the Brownline train. (You can always transfer to a Red line train on Belmont or Fullerton if you need to).
    You may also want to check out Lakeview neighborhood's Southport between Irving Park and Belmont to see the shops and restaurants, which I believe is called "Southport Corridor". http://yochicago.com/chicago-neighborhoods/Southport-Corridor (see map on the left and zoom out to see where Lakeview is in relation to Uptown).
    In general, I suggestion staying west of Clark/Ashland if you're leaning towards living north of Irving Park. If you don't mind paying a bit more for rent and going a bit south but north of downtown, look into Lincoln Park.

    Drive around each neighborhood you're considering during the day & night. There is crime in every neighborhood, but you will see and feel the difference once you get here.

    Good luck Sarah! ^_^

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    I have a friend who lives on Malden, about the same block address. She has not had problems but has her own garage. In summer there have been occasional roaming gang members running in the streets. An apparent gang related shooting near Truman. but can happen anywhere in city, just be knowledgeable about where to avoid, especially at night. I like living west of Andersonville and east of Albany Park, I feel safer and it's less expensive.

  • Zippy8 , what is the name of the area you are from? Since we are not from chicago we only know of certain areas ie. lakeview, lincoln park, etc. We are not aware of some of the smaller areas that are affordable and safe, and we are very open to these.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    I don't mean to be funny but one factor I consider is how fast I can run. Now that I'm older and a bit slower I choose neighborhoods more carefully. I feel less invincible.

  • Andersonville is a part of Uptown. Just FYI.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    Sarah, I grew up in the burbs but have now lived in Chicago much of my life. I guess my neighborhood would be called Arcadia Terrace (thanks Mike) or far north west Lincoln Square, east Budlong Woods or south West Ridge. I'm between Western and Lincoln, just north of Bryn Mawr. The area around Northeastern University is fine too. many nice homes with apts mixed in. Just avoid living near the river there, have been flooding issues .I love Lincoln Square, much to do. Home of Old Town School of Music and a thriving eclectic non enclosed mall. Love Andersonville but not in my budget. I love going to Devon St, mostly Indian with some Pakistanis and similar. I'm in an apartment but prefer streets that have several houses, feel these blocks are more stable, invested in so to speak. Not to mention prettier.This area has more nationalities than any other neighborhood in Chicago. It's the next best thing to traveling around the world. Avoid Peterson near Mather H.S. (Sorry if anyone lives there). Use your own feel of things. I'd enter searches as Lincoln Square if I were looking. Most of the other areas mentioned are too small to find in housing service sites

    I used to live in Ravenswood, ok too. Less apartments and more homes compared to where I live.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    Lincoln Square is more or less part of Ravenswood.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    These areas I mention are just minutes from Uptown/Andersonville if that's a consideration for work.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    Sarah, I'm not recommending this site or these poor maps. But they do give boundaries of some of the mini neighborhoods. I'm sure you can find better maps:
    http://www.chicagohomeestates.com/neighborhood

  • Catbus Philosopher, Third-Class

    Jason is incorrect. Andersonville is a part of Edgewater, which is the neighborhood north of Uptown.

  • Idscnyco Uptown proud

    In a way you are both correct. The whole area was Uptown, then Edgewater 'defected' from Uptown in 1980 to become the 77th community area in the city.

    http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/413.html

  • Bill 12 year Saint Bens resident

    Ok here are the actual facts. If you move to uptown and don't own a gun....buy one. As for the true def. Of a troll....they live under bridges and are usually short fat and ugly. They can be male or female. Discuss

  • Melissa Favorite things: sushi, ice cream,running

    I live on Marine between Montrose and Junior Terrace. I've lived here for 8 years. I'm a single woman. I feel safe walking South of my place but I will not walk North at night by myself. My car was stolen on Marine Drive between Montrose and Wilson. I will not walk to or from Target at night. I feel the area is slowly getting better but you should always be aware of your surroundings. I take the 136 to get to work. I'm hoping the Wilson Red line area will get better once they finish rehabbing the station. I believe it will be completed in 2018. Check out Uptown Update if you want to hear about everything in the area.

  • At the dog park feeling very unsafe ;)

  • No! Too many other options. Any neighborhood off the brown line like Lincoln sq, north center lake view, roscoe, DePaul, Old Town, Gold Coast and west loop. Red line good starting from Addison in wrigley. Uptown has been up and coming since I was a kid. Most soup kitchens and mental institutions in the neighborhood. Take a pass!!!!

  • RT Here

    Ask some cops when you are here if they would recommend moving to Uptown.

  • C

    No, no, no. And especially coming from the St. Louis suburbs having no street sense developed. NO.

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    I am so tired of people talking about Uptown as if it's a war zone. I'm 25, fairly small in size, and I walk 2 definitely small dogs who aren't intimidating anyone (although one of them thinks he is) during the night. Never, not once, have I felt threatened. In fact, when I am out at night, this street is probably the quietest I have been on in Chicago. I don't know about Clarendon specifically, but Marine Drive is right down the street and like I said, 0 problems.

    Chicago is a large city with lots of crime so you can't dilly dally anywhere in the city. You need to be aware of your surroundings and no look like a victim. There are psychological studies that have been done on how appearing like any easy target makes you an easy target. The reason I mentioned my age & size earlier is to illustrate that even if you look like someone who would be very easy to overpower, it doesn't mean that you need to be scared all the time just because gangs (a huge issue throughout the city) are going to drive around looking for YOU.

    Other than the fearmongerers, Uptown is beautiful. The lake is definitely one of the very high points of the city, which is why it costs a ridiculous amount to live in most places near it.

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    By the way, to people who think Lakeview & Lincoln Park are some sorts of utopias, where would you go to rob someone? In a poor or rich area? I attend DePaul's law school and get fairly frequent updates regarding the crime at their Lincoln Park campus. I just got one re: armed robbery. Crime happens where there are people to commit crimes against, especially people who might have something you want. Otherwise, Chicago has a lot of gang related crime that mostly affects gang members.

  • lauren :)

    Jordane - would you rather live in Englewood or the Gold Coast? According to what you just said, you'd rather live in Englewood since it's a poor area where the only crime is gang related than the Gold Coast which is a rich area and the only real crime is theft.

    Lord knows a gang related crime has never affected an innocent bystander. /sarcasm

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    Andy in Ravenswood, this is how hysteria happens. The guy at the Wilson stop didn't just open fire on pedestrians. He shot two rounds at the ground and another out, and then got on a bus where he was apprehended very shortly afterwards. Can we not start a Reefer Madness sequel re: gun crime in Uptown? Three gun shots, guy from Joliet, nobody was hurt.

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    Interesting you said that, Lauren. It shows how limited your ideas are. My mother actually lives in the Gold Coast -- oooh, fancy, right? Yea, my sister lives with her; her iphone has been stolen twice in one year (mine has been stolen 0 times). I also went to Loyola for my undergrad, which is also in the Gold Coast essentially. Guess what I encountered every single day? Drunk people yelling and fighting right around the corner from my campus. Comparing Englewood to the Gold Coast and Uptown to Lakeview are totally different. Englewood, for one, is a food desert. Not a problem we have in Uptown. Englewood is also almost all black. That's not a dig at black people, that's a dig at society. We can go into a socioeconomic discussion if you'd like but I am not about to do that if you're the type of person who has an anxiety attack when she sees a black person with a hoodie on.

  • I just have to point out that most that are saying Uptown is unsafe or that you should not live here...DON"T LIVE IN UPTOWN. It is hard for someone outside of the community to really know what it feels like to live here day in and day out. You know what you hear. If you lived in Uptown YEARS ago, things are changing. I think one of the best things about Uptown is we have a lot of residents that have lived here for 15+ years. This provides stability to the neighborhood and also provides the sense of community that I do love about this area.

    And for all those that are recommending Lincoln Square, Roscoe Village, Southport and Lincoln Park...she very clearly stated she wanted a change and does not want a "super white (OP's words)," "high pressure for kids" area. All these areas are definitely more family focused and tend to be very "white." Lincoln Square is starting to be overpopulated with young families, children everywhere!

  • AmyC Hello Neighbor.

    Sarah, from what you describe I think you and your husband would love parts of Uptown. I am a single female and lived in Uptown (4900 Marine Drive, across from Margate Park) for 3 years. Marine Drive between Lawrence and Foster is all condos to the west, and to the east is huge park, the Margate Park field house (with gym) with an underpass and 5-minute walk to the lakefront path (great if you're a runner). A quick 10-minute walk down Argyle gets you to the red line. I walked back and forth from this El stop numerous times, alone, late at night, and NEVER felt unsafe. Restaurants along Argyle are all open late. There are tons of great ethnic spots in the area - Vietnamese, Thai, Ethiopian, to name a few. For commuting to work, the express buses stop in front of every condo along Marine Drive and hop right onto Lakeshore Drive toward downtown. If you have pets, you'll fit right in - there are tons of dog owners. The neighbors are some of the nicest and include single people and people with families. There is a Walgreens on Marine just south of Lawrence, and what used to be Dominick's (soon to be Mariano's) at the corner of Foster and Marine. Most of the parking in those condos has garage spaces, and many of them have rooftops with awesome views! I left because I needed to save money, but that was the only reason. I would totally move back. I haven't heard all the advantages all laid out this way, so I hope that my story helps. You guys should check out Marine and see what it has to offer. Good luck!

  • RT Here

    Evidently Uptown is a polarizing neighborhood. Granted, there are some great things worth visiting there (Sun Wah BBQ, Green Mill, Riv and Aragon), but way too much of an criminal element. Gangs, mentally ill roaming around, homelessness, etc, etc. My softball team couldn't even get through a few games one summer due to shots fired in the area. It was a complete joke. For those that love it, great. I hope things turn around, but folks have been waiting on that for years. Even realtors have ceased the whole "up and coming" tag line.

    And the summer months bring out the bullets like no other Northside neighborhood...... besides maybe Rogers Park.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130701/uptown/uptown-crime-has-residents-on-edge

    Chicago is full of wonderful, vibrant neighborhoods. To the original poster, make a visit and check out as many as you can. You'll get more bang for your buck in Uptown, but there is a reason for that.

  • lauren :)

    Ummmm. Where did I say anything about black people in hoodies?
    I also said there was theft in the Gold Coast, so not sure why you felt the need to tell me about the phone being stolen.

    You're the one who brought race up, not me.

    And I was making a point. You said you'd rather live in a poor area than a rich area. I didn't say uptown was englewood. But it directly correlates with your theory.

    So... When you want to stop trying to paint me with some racist brush when YOURE the one who brought up race, no one else, then we can discuss.

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    Like I said, Lauren, the differences between the Gold Coast and Englewood are due to political and socioeconomic strife. Unfortunately, pretending that race doesn't play into why Englewood is kind of like a war zone and the Gold Coast is full of people who make bad decisions for Englewood residents who they've never spoken to is in large part why areas like Englewood are so crime ridden. The reason I discussed the iPhone incident is because we are talking about safety. Having your phone, which contains a lot of personal information and in the case of iPhones is very expensive to replace, is a part of feel safe/unsafe.

    I've noticed that you commented on 3 separate posts (one about Lakeview where you managed to interject Uptown) where you bash Uptown. Have you EVER lived here? How often have you visited? I don't seek out East Lakeview posts because I have been there on a few occassions to visit businesses so I'm no authority on the neighborhood. Perhaps you should stick to what you know instead of spreading your ill-informed opinions around the block. While you don't need to live in any particular area to have an opinion on it, you also don't need to preach your limited knowledge about something when it hasn't been directly solicited from you in particular. When someone makes a post titled, "Is East Lakeview full of white people who think they're really special because they live in East Lakeview?" then I hope you will be on the frontlines to immediately answer, without of course, neglecting to warn people that if they stray too far away from East Lakeview they may end up in Uptown where death is imminent. In the meantime, perhaps chill out on the fear mongering.

  • lauren :)

    Why are you personally attacking me? This is a public forum. I don't need to be personally asked for my opinion to give it. I have stated multiple times that I almost moved to uptown until I drove by at night and felt like my life was truly in danger, that I have multiple friends who do live there who are counting down the days until they can move, how I have had my own bad experiences from random mentally unstable people and/or drug addicts at that target and why I'll never go to that target again even though it's the closest one to me.

    You need to relax and stop attacking me for my opinions. This forum is meant for neighbors opinions. Not just the people who live there but all of Chicago.
    Again, I don't need to be personally asked in a public forum.
    The threads I've responded to have been all about uptowns safety - so my posts were all 100% related to the topic at hand. It's not like I went to random threads to bash uptown.

    So before speaking to me again, realize that you are totally out of line with the cr-ap you're throwing my way.

  • lauren :)

    Also, enough with the racial comments. "Is east lakeview full of white people who think they're special."

    Grow up. Stop bringing race into this. It has nothing to do with anything.

  • RT Here

    Sounds like someone is stuck in a bad lease in Uptown......

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    My lease expire in July 2013 -- I resigned a 2 year lease right away.

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    Here's an article (with pictures) of a really scary event in Uptown from earlier this month: http://www.chicagonow.com/another-look-chicago/2014/02/uptown-argyle-street-lunar-new-year-parade-photos/#image/12

  • lauren :)

    There's good and bad that happen in all neighborhoods, Jordane. But the bad tends to outweigh the good in Uptown.
    You seem really desperate to change opinions of people who don't agree with you. Why?

  • Elizabeth Criminal Defense Attorney

    I can ask you the same exact question? Why are you so eager to frighten people away from a neighborhood you are afraid to enter for some irrational reason and thus, know barely anything about?

    I'm "eager" because this is a neighborhood that I live in, that I feel perfectly safe in, that has a lot of awesome things to offer, and that, if left to the likes of people with opinions like yours, can get left behind for no good reason.

    You really need to read a bit about Chicago history, especially about white flight and gentrification, issues that have ruined many formerly good neighborhoods and that have increased crime.

    Do you know why gangs have been battling it out in some areas of Uptown and throughout the entire city? If not, you should definitely check out Hagedorn's book "Gangland." You can even watch some documentaries about the newly dubbed "Chiraq."

    As for homelessness and mental illness being rampant, well, I don't see very many homeless people on my street but Marine Drive is a bit isolated. However, the homeless that are in Uptown (and also in the Gold Coast, in Lakeview, right outside of the Daley Center, and any other part of the city that we can sit here and name) are partly there because, again, gentrification. In order to create East Lakeview type communities, we have to push poor people out. Unfortunately, in order to push the poor out we have to raise rent prices and then there aren't places for the poor to go, so they become homeless involuntarily. If you're concerned about mental illness, instead of bashing neighborhoods like Uptown, start talking to your city's leaders about creating actual mental health institutions for people who need it instead of using our overcrowded jails as mentally ill holding places.

  • People sure do love this city! Crime happens everywhere, every neighborhood, every day. Some neighborhoods do have bigger issues with specific types of crime, but I guarantee nobody wants crime in their backyard. I've lived in the city my entire life, north side, west side, in ethnic areas, in up and coming areas, and in areas going down due to crime. Luckily, I've never been a victim of violent crime, although theft and assault have happened to me in "good" areas. ( assault sounds violent, but I didn't need to go to the hospital, that's what the cops have to report it as.) Either way, my experiences have made me careful and aware of my surroundings. I think that's true of every neighborhood, don't make yourself a target, take precautions, and enjoy the city- it's got so much to offer to everyone. If you want to only live your life in a 3 block radius of your home and never venture out to other neighborhoods, your loss.

  • This is silly. There is crime in Uptown; there is crime in Lakeview, Edgewater and Lincoln Square, too. Any of these places have areas that are unlikely to see bullets, but they also have areas that you would warn your mother against walking at night. The statistics show they all have *violent* crime in roughly the same proportion - depending on the year it will vary, but they are in the middle range of violent crime neighborhoods across the city. More dangerous than the less interesting family neighborhoods, but far less dangerous than the genuinely dangerous areas. We can confirm that from police statistics.

    Ask a police officer about Uptown and they'll say... who cares? Ask a police officer about CHICAGO and they'll say don't come here. The city has crime. It also has terrible roads & bad traffic, the schools aren't good, and wow it's even cold in winter. That's not why we live here!

    We all know that some parts of Uptown are more dangerous than others. If you have some useful information for Sarah on this particular block then please share, but comparing Uptown to Lakeview doesn't really help.

  • lauren :)

    Omg. This is so silly, Jordane. You came in here looking to pick a fight with someone. And i was the idiot to feed your need. There are more people in this thread advising her against moving there than are telling her TO move there. But you choose me to freak out on as if I'm the only one.

    I have to get back to work.

    You need to grow up and realize people have different opinions than you and don't deserve your nasty attitude because of it.

    Goodbye.

  • Freddy M. Uptown/Andersonville resident for most of my life

    This topic always brings impassioned debate. One's sense of awareness of safety is always influenced by many factors. As a city, Chicago is not a place of either-or. Crime varies, based on the people who live there and the people who don't. Uptown is more socially economically varied versus Lake View or Andersonville. Uptown is also more ethnically and culturally varied than Lake View. In cities, this can be a strong point within a community, as this can add richness not seen in more homogenous neighborhoods. Uptown developed as a community designed to even the playing field, so-to-speak, when it comes to economic diversity. You will find people living in subsidized housing in the same block with very expensive homes. Sometimes the economic disparities this arrangement can make can be challenging in this neighborhood. There can be conflict over resources, which can translate to the symptoms we often see associated with economic stressors - increased crime, violence, drug use. This community is also unique in that it has the largest population of mental health consumers. Due to the deregulation of mental health services in Illinois back in the late 70s and into the 80s people were left to seek services within the community. To live near one's services makes it easier to access them, so these consumers did not leave the area. There is also an emergent artist community, as well as musician's community here. Everyone loves the access to restaurants and nightlife, as well as public transit. Those who are economically advantaged and disadvantaged want to have access to the same amenities in the area. It is an interesting social experience that isn't really found in many other neighborhoods in Chicago.

  • Freddy M. Uptown/Andersonville resident for most of my life

    I have lived here nearly my whole life (born and raised both Uptown and Andersonville), spent a few years in Jefferson Park and Lake View, and am raising my family here. I don't feel numbed to what happens here (in fact, my work takes me to the most challenging communities in Chicago - Englewood, Pilsen, Roseland, and North Lawndale) and I can say that the violence that happens here is not on par with what happens on a daily basis in those other communities. I think those who defend Uptown as a good place to live are not driven by fear or have found ways to accept the differences in the community, or they are not as affected by what may be challenging in the neighborhood. The fact that Uptown is heterogenous is a protective factor for this community compared with the more homogenous areas I work in. There is community involvement here, a chamber of commerce that values independent businesses and economic growth, and a police district that responds to calls. Our media often skews attention given to crime in our city, contributing to a perception that some communities are far worse than others. I will say that living in the neighborhoods I have lived in, my subjective experience was that I experienced more personal crime against me and my home (robbery, break-in and sexual assault) in Jeff Park and Andersonville, and none in Uptown. And I do all my commuting via public transportation at very early and late hours. I have learned that crime can happen anywhere and have seen violence in the quietest communities. The communities that are quieter tend not to get the press of communities with a more vocal presence (and communities with more economic differences often get more air time, unless they are exclusive communities like the Gold Coast or Streeterville), and thus, our subjective experience follows suit.

  • Freddy M. Uptown/Andersonville resident for most of my life

    There is a kind of love and pride people have for Uptown that you often don't see in other communities here in Chicago. Most people have lived here for decades. No matter where one lives, you always have to keep your wits about you, learn how to keep yourself safe, and realize anything can happen anywhere. In terms of statistics, I've looked up comparisons between Uptown and Lake View with regards to crime in 2013. Lake View, by the way, is next to Uptown, to the south. It's a bigger neighborhood, as well, so crime per capita must be taken into consideration. Many tout that Lake View is "safer" than Uptown. It depends on who is the target and type of crime, as well. For example, most of Chicago' shootings and/or homicides tend to happen between so-called gang-affiliated people (but more often between the less economically advantaged people), which is more represented in Uptown than Lake View. Either way, in 2013, the crime stats for Uptown are:
    Robbery: 123; Battery: 64; Assault: 46; Homicide: 1; Sexual Assault: 30; Theft: 1,121; Burglary: 126. For Lake View - Robbery: 360; Battery: 64; Assault: 35; Homicide: 0; Sexual Assault: 33; Theft: 2,613; Burglary: 384. As one can see there are some differences but not glaring. Stats are not the end-all be-all of what a community is like, but it can give a clue as to the climate. It can be hard for some to accept that there are few differences because the hype of a neighborhood over the years can distort how one views it in reality. Because you don't hear about the crime in one neighborhood it doesn't mean that it is "safe," just as when you do hear about crime in another neighborhood that it somehow equates to "unsafe."

  • Freddy M. Uptown/Andersonville resident for most of my life

    Go to CAPS meetings if you can, research the area, come visit it and it see for yourself if you're able to come in advance of your move. It's a community with a rich and colorful history and it's one of the most diverse neighborhoods here. It's great for young and old alike. There's never a dull moment, and being near the lake is beautiful. There are also some other neighborhoods that are very exciting, diverse, and unique. Once you're here and if you find your experience is negative, there are plenty of other neighborhoods from which to choose. Good luck and enjoy!

    My source for the stats: http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/community/lake-view

  • The whole of Uptown's inner Lincoln Park along Marine & Clarendon is pretty ideal urban living. 4250 N. Clarendon is a very friendly building in my experience. I walk & bike (lots of DIVVY stations) along Clarendon at all hours & don't feel afraid. The gardens & games are nice in the summer & there are tons of schools in the area. It's good to be cautious wherever you are alone at night, but one thing about Clarendon Ave is that people come to know you because they are walking around too.

    Clarendon Park has always been a sort of 'people place'. Originally it was a huge beach, where the city built a beach house that was considered the gem of the Chicago lakefront. You can see the beach & the historic building you are considering renting in this historic photo: http://calumet412.com/post/42850017463/amazing-tinted-aerial-of-uptown-1928-chicago. The beach was landfilled to make land for Lake Shore Drive, which is how Montrose Point came about. There's a great dog beach at Montrose Point: http://mondog.org/. You can reach the Lakeshore Trail on your bike in a heartbeat & Clarendon is a good low-traffic route too.

    Weiss Hospital just north of the park has a rooftop garden on its parking garage & a farmers market. If you are looking for parking, the garage offers monthly (covered) parking through Towne Park (https://towneparkpermit.com/parkers/ParisWeb-LocList.php). And you can rent a rooftop garden plot through Loud Grade Produce Squad in the summer months too! (http://loudgradeproducesquad.org/)

    Honestly my only concern with moving to that location right now is that a large development (2 high-rises) may start construction just south of there this summer. Demolition of the existing buildings is scheduled to occur this summer and construction on the first building (a 26-story building on the block from Agatite to Montrose) is supposed to last about a year and a half.

  • I know that nkot is very familiar with Clarendon, so I think nkot's advice is sound. I would suggest giving it a try as long as you've made a choice, rather than starting over - especially if your job is so close to where you'll be living (so you won't have to travel greater distances on public transit late at night). You can always move somewhere else once you get familiar with Chicago.

    There are so many neighborhood names, many being former townships that joined Chicago, and others being enclaves within those old townships. It can be very confusing, but you come to understand them after awhile.

    The biggest worry is walking from your job all hours of night. If it is the hospital near to where you'll be staying, you won't have a long walk, which is a good thing, but I'd be so careful and aware of people around you, even when walking the dogs. Move quickly and don't wear ear plugs or have your phone out texting or talking. Stay 100% aware of your surroundings, most particularly when out at night.

    Uptown has pockets which have more violent crime some other nearby neighborhoods or other parts of Uptown for that matter, but criminals can and do travel from one neighborhood to another, so you really do have to be careful and aware everywhere.

  • Bradley 13 Year Buena Park resident

    I rented here for 7 years and liked it so much I bought a place.

  • Irish Pirate Littleton/Artist/Uptown/Chicago

    I live here and I love it. People can play tennis with crime stats all they want but it won't do you much good.

    Uptown has more social services which means more people who look a bit scarier when in fact they are quite harmless. Some people, maybe even Lauren from Lakeview above, get a wee bit nervous around such people so they "feel" unsafe.

    Does that make Uptown "unsafe" or Lakeview "safe" because she feels it so?

    I think we all know the answer.

    One way to meet the people who make up Uptown is to come to our open studios....

    Shameless plug alert:

    https://www.facebook.com/events/1408021452787897/

    All the Best.

  • zippy8 mostly happy resident

    I moved to Chicago about 40 years ago and have "only" been robbed twice. Once was within the first few months I lived here. It was in Lakeview late at night. It was a gun point, Had trouble finding wallet, gave them entire purse. Let them have what they ask for, don't risk it, in my opinion. I even carry "mug money." Second time was downtown getting onto a bus. A beautiful hand sewn leather bag was cut/taken from my shoulder. All I felt was a slight bump behind me. But many have lived here all their lives and never had once incident.

  • I bought a condo here in Uptown in November - after numerous friends expressed great concern over the saftey of the area and my sanity for even considering buying here. I am so glad that I listened to my instincts. Uptown is a beautiful, diverse, historic neighborhood with great access to transit, the lake, grocery stores, music - I could go on and on. Since moving to Chicago 4 years ago, I have lived in River North and the South Loop. I would say by comparison I do not feel markedly more unsafe than I did in either of those neighborhoods. As a woman in the city one must always be aware and diligent regarding personal safety in any area. That being said, I don't know that I would take the Red Line home late at night. But I regularly take the Red Line from the Wilson stop during the day and into the ealry evening, thus far, totally uneventful. Very happy to be an Uptonian...

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