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Added Dec 12 2017

I drove past the corner of Lawerence and Central and noticed the fencing around the corner. Does anyone Know what is going on?

  • JVJ Airline Pilot Triathlete Portage Park.

    I personally don’t care from Starbucks but if you know anything about them, they do their marketing and target market very well. Reason what they don’t exist in bad or gettho neighborhoods.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Well, they built one in Uptown, so maybe they were targeting an area with a lot of drug dealers because they are coffee pushers! https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/starbucks-shooting-uptown-alderman-james-cappleman-safety/
    https://youtu.be/Z-9iNVoeghI

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  • Jeffrey Littleton Sheridan Park Neighbors Administrator/Local Artist

    The Uptown location shut down because of shoddy property management and didn't renew their lease.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    @ Jeffrey Littleton So poor property management is what caused Starsucks to do nothing about the drug dealing? Please do extrapolate further?

  • Jeffrey Littleton Sheridan Park Neighbors Administrator/Local Artist

    Why do you need more info on a particular commercial lease disagreement?

  • Well Bushman4, since you called me out I need to ask what in my comments led you to say that I am suggesting "Starbucks will be a panacea to all of the problems in Portage and Jeff Park"?
    My point is that our community is evolving as all communities do. We hope it will evolve in a positive direction. Life is change, choose wisely!

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  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    @ robsy Evolving into what? In fact it may be devolving into a community of lemmings!

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    @Littleton Why, because I have an enquiring mind and enquiring minds want to know! As you purport to be some kind of commercial property expert, explain the finer points of this agreement.

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  • Because you're comparing one month that had a couple extra robberies than the same month last year, making it a "90 % increase". The yearly graph at the bottom shows a downward trend in crime in Portage Park

    http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/community/portage-park

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  • I started this thread with a question about what is going to be built there. It has now went in another direction. If you don't have anything positive to say then don't, enough is enough.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Have you been officially appointed as a censor?

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  • Thank you for refocusing the thread! As I said previously, our neighborhood is evolving as all neighborhoods do. What I see in my 29 years is an evolution in a very positive way. Example, immediately west of Central on Goodman are five single-family homes. I always walk by going to the train. Historically, one house always puts up attractive seasonal displays outside. The other four have experienced younger couples moving in and now all five homes have Christmas displays. I love the spirit.

    Last Halloween, a new neighbor invited everyone in a two-block area to an open house Halloween party in her house. That was great!

    Central and Lawrence has been an unattractive intersection for years. A revolving door of restaurants on the northwest corner and parking lots on the other three corners has been an eyesore. The bike lanes and single lane traffic I think has improved the intersection. Starbucks is proud of its brand and hires quality employees. Even though I don't like their coffee, the younger people moving into Jefferson Park do. I hope Jewel will become motivated to dress up their property on the other two corners of the intersection.

    As you can see, I am very positive about the changes in our hood.

    Merry Christmas to all.

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  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    robsy Do you work for Starbucks or the local chamber of commerce?

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  • No, my working days are long over. I regret my neighbors don't feel the same pride I have in Jefferson Park. I welcome the new younger folks who will keep us fresh and growing. Starbucks and younger folks go together. I love seeing kids on the block again and hope for a greatly improved intersection at Central and Lawrence.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Oh, I get it your all for the yuppie-fication of Jeff Park, you probably want a Starsucks on every block along with a bank and cell phone store on every corner. Some people set the bar low, cause their too lazy to jump!

  • JVJ Airline Pilot Triathlete Portage Park.

    I don’t think the issue is the Starbucks. But more of a sore other than dollar stores or fade shops that don’t do much for our home value.

  • Why to never try teaching a pig to sing: it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
    Or in some cases, just makes the pig long for more attention.

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  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    @NW-Sider Sounds like you're a farmer, what do you raise, lemmings?

  • JVJ Airline Pilot Triathlete Portage Park.

    No one cares about home value. ??? Of course not. Some renters don’t nor welfare cases But portage has been and is a family
    Neighborhood. And many of us do care about it. Which is why we watch and should try to push out those that differ. It’s our family and kids on the line.

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  • And hopefully, the area will someday be young and "hip" enough to score even more interesting and upbeat additions - like Colectivo Coffee Roasters in Logan Square (2261 N Milwaukee Ave); somewhat new and already getting rave review.
    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170831/logan-square/logan-square-colectivo-coffee-mica-towers-opening-date

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  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Since you have a fixation with coffee, why not buy some land in South America and grow your own beans. Also, you're linking an article from 6 months ago from a cite that is no longer around, probably like that coffee shop! http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-dnainfo-shutting-down-20171102-story.html

  • Thanks JVJ,
    I welcome any employer who pays a living wage, provides fringe benefits and tuition assistance. Yes, Starbucks fits the bill and as an employer, benefits us the residents.
    For those invested in the status quo, wait until you see the development plans for the Jefferson Park Transportation Hub. It will even include a store for sampling craft beer.
    On to the future!

  • Thank you for the info about The Jeff Park transportation hub Robsy can't wait to enjoy the craft beer, oh and also starbucks is known for giving back to the community.

  • Thanks for the additional input. Yes, I believe this is an exciting time for our neighborhood.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Ya, Starsucks gives the community the smell of coffee wafting through the air, just like Bloomer does with chocolate. The excitement will become palpable when Arena gets his apartment buildings built!

  • We are a coffee haven now between Weston Coffee, Perkolator, Portage Grounds and now the Starbucks.

    Awesome. Sbucks is great. Now for some more breweries!

  • Yes Chris I agree, the lot at Central and Irving is going to have a Starbucks and that lot has more than enough room to also accommodate a brewery.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    You, people are Losers with a capital L, just admit it. Fishman's on Milwaukee closed down with hardly a whimper from the local's and now you want a brewery? Give me a fricken break!

  • Brushman, Fischman's Bottle Shop is open again and their new bar will soon follow. They didn't close down for lack of business. It was a lease dispute, per Nadig. And a brewery is something completely different from a bar. But Fischman's is the next best thing because they feature and support a ton of local beer and had fresh taps every weekend. It was awesome. Can't wait for them to reopen the bar.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    chris, Fischman's is now open in Portage Park not Jefferson Park. I believe it was also family dispute as one part operated the business and the other relative owned the building. But know everyone is clamoring for breweries,Starsucks etc. what next a Chucky Cheese on every block?

  • PennyPenguin Chillin' out on EB

    The breweries I've been to are not "completely different" from a bar, they have more in common with bars than differences by far. Just putting that out there.

  • Brush, the new Fischman's WILL be in PP, yes. It has not opened yet. Only their Bottle Shop is open. So you have the wrong intel there.

    PennyPenguin, I guess "completely different" was not the right terminology there. They are inherently the same in that you can drink beer and eat food. What I meant was, breweries make their own beer fresh on tap and cycle out the kegs constantly for new creations or old favorites. You can fill up howlers and growlers to go on fresh beer. They usually feature a more upscale menu as well. A regular corner bar from you probably pours Miller and Bud out of the taps and maybe something like Revolution (great brewery btw). Some bars do act more like breweries though (like Fischman) in that they bring in fresh kegs of different kinds of beer every week or so. Fischman had new beer on tap every week. It was great.

  • You drink the booze, you lose.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Hey now, I don't drink anymore, but then again I don't drink any less! I don't drink anything stronger than my Pop, but you should see what he drinks.

  • The old Fischman bar was also in PP. North of Lawrence is not Jefferson Park.

  • *Meant SOUTH of Lawrence is not Jefferson Park.

  • Brushman4 Serving the best since "53"

    Now, that's really splitting hairs!

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