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If no Milwaukee road diet, then everyone should drive slower

Some neighbors don't want the road diet, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But they also must listen to the concerns of others, just as they demanded those in favor of the road diet did.

But how will we make Milwaukee safer for pedestrians and bicyclists, and, also, car users who obey the speed limit?

There's a bunch of facts that indicates the status quo isn't working and we must stop the speeding:
- a traffic study conducted...

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Some neighbors don't want the road diet, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But they also must listen to the concerns of others, just as they demanded those in favor of the road diet did.

But how will we make Milwaukee safer for pedestrians and bicyclists, and, also, car users who obey the speed limit?

There's a bunch of facts that indicates the status quo isn't working and we must stop the speeding:
- a traffic study conducted by CDOT found that 75 percent of drivers exceeded the 30 mph speed limit;
- the same traffic study found that 14 percent went faster than 40 mph; and
- from 2008 to 2012 40 percent of the crashes that resulted in an injury involved a bicyclist or a pedestrian.

The road diet would have naturally slowed traffic through proper street design. Milwaukee Ave has less than 20,000 cars per day, and according to the Federal Highway Administration, means that it "may be good candidate for a road diet." Oh well, it's gone.

CDOT says the newly proposed changes only marginally improve safety for non-car users. So what to do? Clearly, we can't have a cop pulling over 70 percent of the road users, or even the 14 percent that exceed 40.

Instead, remember do to the speed limit. Speed is not everything, this is a neighborhood with kids, older people, and disabled people. The need to cross the street, and a collision with your car could kill them.

Why not give them a break and slow down?

Per the FHWA: "80 percent of pedestrians hit by vehicles traveling at 40 mph or faster will die."

CDOT source: http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150124/gladstone-park/milwaukee-avenue-remain-four-lanes-alderman-says
FHA source: http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/provencountermeasures/fhwa_sa_12_013.cfm

  • Prediction: Speed cameras coming

  • joanie 20+ year Resident of Jefferson Park

    Pedestrians need to use some caution too while crossing the street. Yesterday a pedestrian was running diagonally across Milwaukee Avenue to catch a bus that was waiting. He threw up one hand and expected traffic to halt instantaneously. I stopped to let him go, but it was a dangerous move on his part running into traffic like that. He was running diagonally in the opposite direction that the street curves too.

    Pedestrians, bicyclists and drivers need to exercise caution when utilizing shared roadways. Safety is everyone's responsibility.

  • In any vehicle-pedestrian or vehicle-bicycle incident, it's the vehicle, with most of the mass and most of the energy bears most of the responsibility. If I walk down the street texting and impact some other person, not much happens. If I'm driving or worse, speeding and texting and impact someone,...

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    In any vehicle-pedestrian or vehicle-bicycle incident, it's the vehicle, with most of the mass and most of the energy bears most of the responsibility. If I walk down the street texting and impact some other person, not much happens. If I'm driving or worse, speeding and texting and impact someone, there's whole lot.more damage.

    Joanie, I'll wager that if you were not permitted to take the most direct route available in your car and that inability alone resulting in you having to wait another 20 or 30 minutes, your driver's indignation would kick right in.

    It's also dangerous to consciously drive the 30 mph speed limit down the 2 mile section of the Milwaukee speedway. I've driven 30, stopped for a pedestrian in a marked cross walk, only to watch in my rearview as the driver behind me changed lanes and zoomed past almost hitting the pedestrian.

    Safety is everyone's responsibility, but cars are more responsible for an incident.
    Consider the Contributory negligence concept.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributory_negligence

    Park on the side of the speedway and see how many drivers you see using a cellphone while driving without using a hands free option.

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Boy, this is a first. Arena must be desperate, today he called to wish someone at my house a happy birthday. Won't work, not voting for you anyway. Has anyone else had this?

  • joanie 20+ year Resident of Jefferson Park

    My best 45th Ward memory in the last 4 years happened at the Copernicus Center in November 2013. Kansas came to play and I was hostess for Wheathead Fest 15.5. Our pre-concert party at Paterno's hosted die hard fans from several states and Canada. We had about 60 people. This...

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    My best 45th Ward memory in the last 4 years happened at the Copernicus Center in November 2013. Kansas came to play and I was hostess for Wheathead Fest 15.5. Our pre-concert party at Paterno's hosted die hard fans from several states and Canada. We had about 60 people. This concert was a few months after Kansas' 40th Anniversary Concert in Pittsburgh. If John wants to wish me a Happy Birthday tomorrow that's great. There were several classic rock concerts at Copernicus last year that filled the venue and parking lots.

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Young long-haired black and white male cat went missing December 20 on Mango and Bryn Mawr. Very friendly. No collar and he is not microchipped. Please call 314–805–2291 or 773–467–0431.

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I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the boundaries of the Gladstone Park neighborhood? I live east of Central and north of Foster and I've been told that I'm in Gladstone Park. My mental map has always been that Gladstone Park neighborhood is Milwaukee Avenue and parts west, north of Foster in between the Kennedy. I've no idea what the northern boundary would be? Any other ideas?

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