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Added Mar 15 2012

Chicken found in the 1900 block of Morse.

  • Joseph G PhD student on a bike

    OMG best Everyblock post ever

  • Inactive user

    Bruce, I believe someone lost a rooster, not a chicken.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Its a cross dressing chicken. This is RP after all.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    DO YOU HAVE A NAME FOR THIS ROOSTER?IF YOU DO POST A COMMENT.

  • Kelli Lifelong W. Rogers Resident/Now A Happy Dunningite

    Ok, this is just too weird. A couple of days ago while walking my dog we came across three chickens doing their pecking thing on someone's front lawn. This was on the 6100 block of Sacramento. I really thought someone had slipped me some acid or something, until a woman appeared saying "Here, chickie chickie" and explained that they were hers and she was letting them get some free range exercise. I told her that's neat, but there's a lot of dogs and raccoons and such around that would love a fresh chicken dinner, as my dog was lunging at her very large chickens.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Yes, people do raise chickens in Rogers Park. Craig, curious why you think this is a rooster. I doubt that it is.

  • Joseph G PhD student on a bike

    Urban farming. We has it.

  • steve fix RogPk resident since 1996

    Joseph G already said so, but I wanted to second his "greatest EveryBlock post ever". First time EB made me laff so hard wife came into room to see what was up...

  • Joseph G PhD student on a bike

    "Sit back and relax. Your chicken is going to eventually lay an egg or crow. That's what chickens do."

    That's the most profound life advice I've heard all week.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060927111133AAgFvp9

  • Inactive user

    1900 Morse is very close to the Harold's. Just sayin.

  • Inactive user

    I think that chicken, errr ...rooster, belongs to the community house on Morse and Ashland. My nephew goes to school right there and I saw them there today.

  • I work with a bird rescue group and will go down and get it if it's still there. Has anyone found where it belongs? There is a good chance, it won't make it through the night because of other animals. If I don't hear from anyone by 10:30, I'll just go down there, but if someone knows anything about this, please let me know! THanks!

  • Luci in Rogers Park Dog Lover, living in Rogers Park for 26 years

    I hope someone is not using roosters or chickens for fighting....
    There was an article a few months back stating that Evanston was allowing people to raise chickens/roosters???

  • Inactive user

    All I know is that I saw chickens there today when I dropped my nephew up from school today. I saw two there in the morning one white and one black like this one, but in the afternoon I only saw the white one.

  • Inactive user

    By the way, roosters are chickens. So are hens. Hens are female chickens, roosters are male chickens. The association of "chicken' with female is due to the fact that most roosters are culled (ie, killed and eaten before sexually mature) because they are harem-social animals, and so you can only have a few roosters for many hens. But they're all chickens.

  • I went to the block, but couldn't find the chicken. If anyone sees her please let me know.

  • What about pullets, Bill? PULLETS ARE CHICKENS TOO!!! :)

    So, did we figure out whether he/she belongs to the community center? That white chicken is going to be sad if this all ends poorly.

  • michael james co founder Heartland Cafe

    we sometimes do a farm report on The Live from the Heartland Show. Sometimes its local, and last time we did the report, someone told me they knew of six families with chickens in the hood. Maybe a rooster too. Thom Clark family on Morse has chickens. Will try and find out who else has....

  • Kelly Cassidy Mom of 3 boys, State Rep of 14th district

    Can this somehow be linked to the "Why I Love Rogers Park" thread? I agree with the best thread ever reviews!

  • What's for dinner Bruce?

  • Susan Says Howard Area Helper

    Thanks Kelly Cassidy! Another fun filled post by you during election time. I fact all your posts have been made around this election time.

  • igz

    wonderful! if it doesnt find its home, i can home it.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Feathers is doing quite well. He has found temporary housing in my back yard and had an ample supply of rice and water last night and today. We will be looking for a permanent housing or to reunite with previous owner. feathers is very friendly, beautiful and has a muted crow.

  • Probably belongs to the group associated with United Church of Rogers Park that lives in the old parsonage on the south side of the church on Ashland.

  • Michael Luckenbach 36 year resident of Rogers Park-North of Howard

    He's beautiful! Chickens are known for their intelligence.

  • Thanks so much, Bruce for the rescue and letting us know. I was really concerned about her getting eaten by a raccoon. Feathers is an adorable name. If you need permanent housing, my bird rescue group has a few people who take chickens.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Elissa and igz if the owner does not contact us by Sunday Feathers will need a new home.

  • Sizqu peruvian food <3 top

    Hi! :) dont feed her any dry rice, it will hurt her pretty badly. Ill take her in if you dont find her a home, I have three already :) email or call me :) I live close, my number is 773 544 0495

  • Allison 60647

    Pretty!

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Nothing but the best cooked rice for Feathers. Just checked on Feathers and all seems good. Fresh water and some bread. In all fairness just wanted to give the original owner a chance to claim but Sunday is the time limit.

  • Sizqu peruvian food <3 top

    cool, and what a perfect name, shes a pretty girl. And I understand, try Ravenswood and greenleaf, theres a family there I think had ones similar to her.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Congratulations, Joseph G. Have you noticed that your first response here is a citywide staff pick comment?

  • Did we ever decide whether Feathers is a boy or a girl?

  • Hi Bruce,
    If you could let me know by sat night, that would be helpful. If igs wants her for her home, that's fine. I'm just going to make sure she gets to a good home for chickens!

  • igz

    I'm still game. Wait...that souns wrong...

    I have a full city block as a yard, am collaborating with urban chicken run, have everything a chick would need. Just let me know. I'm at grand and ogden, btw.

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    This is not so weird. There's a moving cock-fighting ring in the neighborhood. The roosters are raised, kept, and fought: for a while in the playlot at Ravenswood & Albion, but the police supposedly broke it up. The hens on the other hand, as soon as they can tell they're female, are thrown out on the street. I know, because I found one, poor thing, barely fledged, just one big feather, screaming her heart out under a car. She came home with me and had a happy life with me for 8 years as a pet.

  • Soni, West Ridge Lived in West Ridge 16 years.

    That is horrible. What is wrong with society these days. :(

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Bruce, for what it's worth, my pet loved sunflower seeds, dry oatmeal, and bananas. (And flies, but you had to catch 'em for her — I can't agree that chickens are bright — although she was bright enough to get me to catch 'em for her — and she wouldn't eat them if more than 15 seconds dead.)

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Oh and I'll consider thinking her/him in. I have a large floor-standing cage with litter drawer, etc. If it were just me, I'd be more definite, but I have the other half to convince!

  • For the record... all our hens at United Church of Rogers Park are accounted for. I'm glad to see enough people have noticed them to be on the lookout for their well-being! Thanks, all!

    If the hen needs a relocation, we would be happy to have her in our yard. We keep chickens as a part of our Children's Garden Program, a free after school activity for children between the ages of 5-12. We currently have 3 hens and would welcome a 4th (if the original owner isn't found, of course) to supply more eggs for our students to take home.

    Here's a link to our website if you want to read more about it and/or see photos of the program in action: http://www.letsgochicago.org

    Good luck to Feathers!

  • P.s. Some contact info if you decided to get in touch:

    Peter Hoy 773-414-4242
    petermhoy@gmail.com

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    If the owner of Feathers is not found, I vote to have her given to the United Church of Rogers Park so that she can stay in the neighborhood. That is, if Feathers is a girl. I'm not sure that it's even legal to keep roosters in the city. Even if it is, I doubt that the neighbors near Morse and Ashland would appreciate the crowing. Peter, would you know by examining Feathers?

    Your program at the church is great, Peter. I'm glad to learn about it.

  • igz

    Roosters are not legal in the city. If it were a male, could be why its 'on the streets', but it doesn't look like a male to me...

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Not quite sure why it's important to keep this Chicken in the neighborhood . . . but United Church does sound like the best idea yet.

  • Sizqu peruvian food <3 top

    It may be a rooster, I'm pretty sure that its a partridge cochin bantam. Does she/he have feathered legs?

  • Sizqu peruvian food <3 top

    And the church I think has that type

  • If Feathers (love that name) needs to be taking out of the city, that's where I can help. Otherwise, she should has an embarrassment of riches regarding homes!

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Feathers is no figher either and is pretty much a Hippie Chick. Yes Feathers has feathers on his legs and is likely a rooster because of his crown and beard. Feathers has enjoyed a balanced diet of sunflower seeds, cooked rice and bread scraps lots of water and some very humored nieghbors. So far the best solution is for Feathers to move to an undisclosed location in UK village where there is chicken coop that allows for a rooster or two to live out their natural lives. No chicken should be illegal but if a rooster iis going to crow then let him crow where no one will report to the authorities. Thanks for all the kind suggestions but unless the owner comes forward feahers will move south to a great friendly location where my kids can go visit for the forseeable future.

  • tc

    this is probably a fighting bird that lost. these jerks just let them go

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Fighting birds that lose aren't usually in very good shape, though. ▸ My own little hen wasn't as pretty as Feathers, but I still miss her. I suppose I might have posted her webpage, with photos: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Biographical/Pets/Dinner/home.html

  • Jeanette Odd but friendly.

    Thank's for sharing Dinner with us Bill T! Er... That name led to a lot of unfortunate puns, didn't it?

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Not really; my Dog couldn't talk, and he was the only one who so much as considered eating her. She was a fierce little bird.

  • Bruce
    if nobody clames the chicken in 3 days can i have it for dinner? LOL

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Feathers update, Feathers has a new home with 4 hens.

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Good going! (That ought to make 5 chickens happy…)

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Aww, Feathers got himself a harem--that is, if Feathers is a rooster.

  • Wonderful! We'll miss him though. :)

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Was this Erin Mc's chicken?

  • no no no. I wish he was though. :)

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    Important — especially Bruce of course: I believe I've found the owner of Our Chicken, and have contacted him, telling him about this thread, which he has now looked at. [While walking my Dog on the 1800 block of Farwell or Morse, I saw a poster, with photo, phone number, and even an offer of a reward, which, no, I didn't claim.]

  • Inactive user

    I know that the owner of the two flat on farwell inbetween greenview and ashland has chickens, he painted the second floor part of the house yellow, and the rest is white. The color of an open egg. Dead giveaway.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    If needed I will diviluge feathers new location to his original owner.
    I will say this chicken has clout. His new owner absolutly loves him but would never keep him from his original owner.

  • Inactive user

    I think as long as the chicken has a good safe home and he is not decapitated for food that is fine. :)

  • Bill Thayer 25 years on Arthur Avenue

    One thing puzzles me. The photo on the "Lost Chicken" poster shows Feathers against the same identical background as the photo posted by Bruce at the start of this thread (although in a different pose). But how can the bird have been lost in a place where it was photographed by his owner? Or is there something I'm not understanding.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Feathers is part of the 1% and will never be a source of food for anyone. He loved, well cared for and part of a family.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Interesting, Bill. Do we have a chicken scam on EveryBlock?

  • Jeanette Odd but friendly.

    I'm pretty sure Feathers is now Everlyblock Roger's Park's mascot.

  • Inactive user

    We should make him the logo.

  • Chickens are, in fact, empathic. :v)

  • EPD Rather than love...money...fame, give me truth.

    What's the story on this chicken?!

  • Do you know how he crossed the road? That would be huge. Thanks.

  • I HAVE A CHICKEN STORY TOO! About 4 years ago, on Christmas Eve, my wife and I walked out of Morseland. Couple of seedy looking dudes hit us up for money. We said, no not today. That's when one of the guys went and reached under a parked car near Morseland and said "how 'bout this chicken, can you take this chicken? We're done with it." I don't know or want to know what it means to be 'done' with a chicken. We took the chicken, which was being carried in a Target (plastic) bag. Took it home and had to call 311. We kept the chicken for a night until animal services could come. Poor chicken, was clingling to life.

  • Barbara Rogers Park resident since 1984

    Seedy-looking characters? They were probably fighting them - but I find it odd that they'd try to give the chicken away, rather than just tossing it after it lost. Humane cock-fighters? Hmmm...
    Actually, I was expecting a punch line from that post, Michael! Let's see - "Want a used chicken?" Something with the Target bag... There's gotta be a joke in there somewhere!

  • Marianne Passionate

    You're right Barbara. It sounds like a classic set up for a joke. Maybe we can sponsor a contest in this thread to challenge subscribers to take the kernel of Michael's story and finish it w/ a punchline. Then when all the entries are in, we use the virtual laugh-o-meter to decide on a winner.

    Don't have an entry yet, but I'll work on it. I do, however, have a chicken story. It's about my father when he was very little, about 4 or 5. This would have been circa 1925. He grew up on the near west side (roughly around where Rush-Presby Hosp is now. In those days, people would go to the butcher to get their meat live on the spot (due to lack of refrigeration). The customer places the order, and the butcher slaughters the selected livestock right there. The customer whisks the fresh meat home to begin cooking it immediately, before it spoils. My father used to go w/ his mother when she visited the butcher. She wanted a chicken. For some reason, the butcher couldn't kill the chicken right then, so he offered to let my grandmother take the live chicken home so no one else got it, and come back later for the slaughter. So they brought the live chicken home and tied its leg to the stove leg w/ a string. My father forgot why they brought it home and played w/ the chicken for hours, giving it bits of food to eat, and naming it (Henry). His mother saw dad's attachment and was careful to return the chicken for slaughter when he was distracted. Poor dad didn't put 2 and 2 together until he sat down to dinner and noticed the chicken was MIA. He said he just couldn't muster an appetite.

  • We had a chicken in our front yard a few years ago during a cold March. I lived behind the dreaded Morelia Supermercado on Western and believe it came from the idiots there. Red Door animal shelter rescued it.

  • i don't get it.

  • Barbara Rogers Park resident since 1984

    "Don't get" what?

  • the joke.

  • Barbara Rogers Park resident since 1984

    Oh, Mr Rogers, that may be because there wasn't an actual joke (other than the post earlier about the chicken crossing the road). I just thought that what Michael wrote about the guys who "reached under a car and pulled out a chicken" after he wouldn't give them money was just begging for a punch line. Marianne's suggestion was that we embellish his story and turn it into a joke contest. Don't worry - you didn't miss anything much... LOL

  • >wink<

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    I think Mr. Rogers enjoys pulling peoples' legs.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Bruce, as long as this thread has been resurrected, do you have any recent news about Feathers?

  • Michael - Do you realize that you probably gave that chicken the best Christmas of it's life?

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Yes Feathers lives with a family in the 1%.
    Not your typical 1% ers. They are very nice and do many civiclyminded projects and programs. No its not the family that owns a theatre in our hood but similar income bracket. Feathers has a better health care and benefits package than I do. Has 4 hens and a fully furnished hen house with AC and heat. Family has large city contracts with more clout than our mayor, less than the former mayor.

    Has two moms and no dads. Thats all I will say on the matter.

  • NCN

    LOL - wasn't there a turkey loose in RP not too long ago also? It's Ol' MacDonald's Farm!

  • Inactive user

    Rogers Park is full of turkeys.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    That's great to hear, Bruce!

    Now about that turkey, does anyone know what happened to it? I just missed seeing it while I was in Sullivan voting in the local school council election. It ran south past the school and was "captured" on one of the candidate's cell phone cameras.

  • Barbara Rogers Park resident since 1984

    There's lots of turkeys in all of Chicago... at least in politics! (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

  • Helen - I'm actually more of a breast man.

  • Bruce - I found a rooster as well. I was wondering where Feathers found a home. I'm looking to find my guy a good home as well.

  • Irish Pirate Littleton/Artist/Uptown/Chicago

    What a fowl post this is!

  • Bill Near Rockwell L

    Interesting that all of this concern got generated for a lost / homeless chicken. I am wondering how it came to be that we- including me- don't go to all this trouble every time we come across a lost / homeless person. We get used to homeless people somehow. True, a homeless person requires more than being penned in the back yard with some rice and a cup of water. But still.

    Not necessarily a criticism of the expression of concern for the chicken, but an observation of how we become inured to tragedy. I somehow feel we shouldn't be like this, but I certainly don't have any answers for the problems of the homeless.

  • Ӧlïvër Lunt Block Vigilante.

    Contrary to humans, pets do not become homeless on their own will.

  • Soni, West Ridge Lived in West Ridge 16 years.

    Bill, you have a good heart.
    It is hard to look away when a pet is homeless.

    I agree with Oliver, pets do not become homeless on their own will.

    I do love EveryBlock!

  • Kelli Lifelong W. Rogers Resident/Now A Happy Dunningite

    ^^ A lot of the time, neither do humans.

  • Ӧlïvër Lunt Block Vigilante.

    @Kelli But in most cases if not all, it's a result from their own actions.

  • Kelli Lifelong W. Rogers Resident/Now A Happy Dunningite

    Mental illness is not a choice, nor are the repercussions a result of one's actions. Neither is getting kicked out of your home for being who you are. Neither is an unexpected job lay-off in a dismal economy.

  • Ӧlïvër Lunt Block Vigilante.

    Government assistance is always available for those who qualify.

  • Marianne Passionate

    I recall Ronald Reagan making comments like this in his term. He told a story of city workers rounding up homeless people to move them to shelters...if they qualified. In many cases, the "shelter" was a County mental health facility, like Bellevue. He told the story city workers reported, rounding up a young homeless woman, w/ the offer of moving her to the MH facility. The woman didn't want to go there. Reagan held out this anecdote as an example of what a marvelous place America is---individual liberties and rights are sacred; no one can be forced off the streets into any shelter they don't want to go to. Yes, how lucky this woman was! Faced w/ the choice of living on the street or in a facility for the mentally ill, she couldn't be forced off the street. Yes, how good to be an American! The luckiest people in the world.

    As to what Bill said about the disparity between the eagerness of people to rush to the aid of an animal loose on the street w/o an apparent home compared to a person on the street, I think it comes down to just what Bill said: it's infinitely easier to resolve the problems of a stray dog, cat or chicken than of a homeless human being. Helping a homeless person is a lot harder, and takes a far longer investment of time and a far greater commitment of resources than a homeless chicken.

  • Ӧlïvër Lunt Block Vigilante.

    What a Fantastic comment!!! @Marianne.

  • Irish Pirate Littleton/Artist/Uptown/Chicago

    I heard its legal to have one goat in the city but not two. Maybe it was Reagan who said it...can't remember he said so many things....

  • Marianne Passionate

    Really Oliver? You like what I said? I would not have thought so. From what you have said, I had the feeling that you blame people for having terrible misfortune. You said there are gov't programs where they can get assistance. I talked about what this so-called "assistance" might be...the choice to stay on the street or go into a state or county hospital for the mentally ill. Did it sound to you I see this as a reasonable choice? If it did, you weren't reading me right.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    I was surprised by that too, Marianne.

    Jeffrey, I assume you were joking about the goat, but just in case someone believes you, I'm fairly sure goats are not allowed in the city.

  • Marianne Passionate

    I may have mentioned this in another thread, but years ago we were going through an alley for some reason when we heard the unmistakable sound of a goat baaaa-ing. We really laughed because we both were pretty sure goats are not allowed in private residences in Chicago.

  • I'm 99% certain goats, pigs & even horses are legal to keep, so long as they're licensed & appropriately housed. I'd be willing to bet that there are few animals that are not legal, apart from very dangerous, exotic non-native species & maybe a couple other categories worth of animals.

    About 15 or so years ago I knew a guy who claimed he obtained the first horse license ever issued by the city & they kept the horse in their yard in Rogers Park. He was politically connected thru his father who worked with Daley Sr, from what I remember. One of these days I'll check that story out.

  • Marianne Passionate

    I would be surprised if the goat we heard was being kept legally. The sound was coming from an apartment.

  • On two occasions in the last few years I’ve spotted chickens wandering our city streets. Both times near cemeteries. I chatted with another passerby and was told that chicken sacrifice by the Santeria is quite common in our area. Every so often one or two get away.

  • Marianne Passionate

    This was years ago, but we were walking in a forest preserve and a very large bird emerged from the trees, strutting and pecking. It seemed impossible but it sure acted like a turkey. I said that to my husband but he refused to believe it. We observed the bird for a minute and my husband then owned up to the fact that it may not be a turkey, but he sure didn't know anything else it could be, as it definitely did act like a turkey. Just then, it gobbled. It was definitely a turkey's gobble. No arguing about it...it was a turkey. We didn't know there were any wild turkeys in the Chicago area, but I guess there are.

  • Helen - I'm looking it up, but note that what you read does not mean that people cannot keep such animals as pets. The law is that you may not kill the animals.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Marianne, did you miss this thread in April:

    http://chicago.everyblock.com/announcements/apr19-wild-turkey-alert-4915986/

    I doubt that there are flocks of turkeys in Chicago proper, but I saw a good-sized flock in the state park north of Rockford last year.

  • It's not just a chicken coop in someone's yard on your block; people do keep goats here in the city too. For milk, and to tend to the grass I suppose.

    http://www.chicagofarmandtable.com/2012/05/31/goats-in-chicago/

    As for pigs, remember people pigs make "good" pets, if you like pigs. Also rats. Completely legal.

    I read that "the only type of livestock that is specifically prohibited is pigeons". I cannot find anything about horses that doesn't involve horse drawn carriages.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    B. Duggan, that's what happens when one tries to interpret legalese in the middle of the night. But I don't find anything in the city code about licensing goats and pigs--just licenses for horses--so go get your goat (or pig).

  • A baby goat is running freely in an alley in this video. But this urban farmer has the 2 adult goats on leashes. They eat the weeds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEVmRQXxzO8

  • Helen :-)
    I'm not interested in getting any goats. If I had a double lot, maybe, but probably not then either. Chickens I'm interested in. Right now though, I just want to get rid of the rats!

  • I want one of those tiny horses for my yard.

  • Ӧlïvër Lunt Block Vigilante.

    @Marianne I don't mean to argue w/you but Honestly, losing your home because you can not afford to make your payments (or the home in the first place) or being abandoned by your loved ones, because you lost your marbles are not really misfortunes. In my humble opinion e.g: getting an incurable terminal disease, losing a child, are misfortunes.

  • Barbara Rogers Park resident since 1984

    Wow, Oliver, you are one harsh mister. I hope you never end up down on your luck - or if/when you are that you have more empathetic people in your life than you seem to be!
    If those are "misfortunes" what do you consider a tragedy?!

  • I saw a chicken on the corner of Devon and Western begging for change. His sign said that he was a Vet. I found that hard to believe. So I ran him over.

  • Luisa, he had escaped from that horrible live kill place located there.

  • d3 NOH

    what's horrible about a place that sells live chickens?

  • Do you know why the duck crossed Michigan Avenue?

  • Ask a chicken.

  • Because there was a 24-hour sale at Barney's of New York.

  • d3 NOH

    your chickens were found dead on your plate by how, magic?

  • Too get to The Drake!

  • Marianne Passionate

    @Oliver: if you have never read the novel "Sister Carrie" by Theodore Dreiser, I highly recommend it. Dreiser lived for a time in Chicago, and the first half of the book is set here (in the 1880s). It was the most chilling portrayal of a man's meteoric fall from a comfortable life and respectable position and social status to his gradual decline in circumstances until he loses his last dollar, living on the streets, dying from chronic hunger and coldness as well all human dignity. As the story progressed, I felt myself descending deeper and deeper into a chasm of widening horror. I was so shaken up at the book's conclusion, a pall of despondency shrouded me for days. I wasn't able to crack a smile. I turned down invitations to go out. I was nearly shattered by it emotionally. I have never been able to look at homeless people the same way again. Everyone has a story. And before any of us judge harshly someone we see in horrible circumstances, we ought to at least know that story. And if one isn't interested in hearing the story, then turn the other way and hurry on--but not w/ judgement.

  • Sandra Stone 30 year resident Rogers Park

    I just donated something to Wikipedia today! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Carrie

    This is one of the very first books I collected for my library about Chicago. Being sober and realistic, it presents the Chicago of its time very well. If I remember correctly, Carrie first moves into a Near West neighborhood. It's a good book to include in a niche about women's lives in the nineteenth century. I like that it doesn't condemn Carrie, just shows how she struggled to make a life when not many options were open to her. She succeeds but isn't exactly happy, and poor Mr. Hurstwood, he ends up really bad. It's a great movie with Laurence Olivier and Jennifer Jones (1952). Excellent casting. You can see it on Amazon instant streaming.

    Sorry you were so adversely affected by it, Marianne. I do remember it was serious. I just assumed that was because it was written during and about the turn of nineteenth century America. Upton Sinclair is no picnic to read either.

  • Marianne Passionate

    Sandra, thanks. Please understand when I talked about how hard the book hit me and the chill I felt was not me saying it's not a good book. I think it's incredible book. In fact, when my husband and I went on our first date, he asked me what books do I really like, and I listed Sister Carrie among them, w/ Sister Carrie near the top. My take is, Dreiser was so masterful a writer, he was able to make the experiences of his characters intensely real. I think what devastated me so much about George Hurstwood's horrifying decline is that I could really feel Hurstwood's physical and emotional suffering, and the disintegration of his life was gradual, yet so thorough, it was impossible to read it without feeling it and seeing it all through the character's eyes. It was chilling and haunting. It stayed with me a long time. But I would attribute that a remarkable accomplishment of any creative work. It's challenging to read or see something that's painful or disturbing to absorb. But if the reader or viewer wants to push himself outside his comfort zone and expand his mind rather than simply feel good or entertained, it's important to seek out and embrace these tough opportunities. Upton Sinclair is another author who does this, you are right. I read "The Jungle" in high school and was impacted similarly. These authors wrote in the age of Naturalism and Realism. There is a familiar theme in all works of that genre. The struggle and suffering of the common man and woman.

  • Sandra Stone 30 year resident Rogers Park

    For me, Emerson and the writings of other Transcendentalists are a great antitdote to the dire feelings that American writers like Dreiser can summon. Thankfully, their works were also available after the Civil War and during difficult economic times at the end of the century. I might read some American realism this winter when it gets cold and the wind howls outside. But I'm keeping Walden Pond nearby on the nightstand.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Only on EveryBlock: We begin with a chicken that has been found. After the thread is reactivated, it devolves into a discussion of homelessness. Along the way, turkeys, goats, pigs. and a duck are added to the mix. And, so far, it ends with a literary discussion, though it's probably not over yet. Amazing.

  • Hey! There is a free eBook edition of "Sister Carrie" on Google books! I just downloaded it, and will be reading it soon. Here's a link: http://books.google.com/books?id=d0NmIKcMDFYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=sister+carrie&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L7-1UKuGILO42QWV9ICACQ&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAg

  • RP Advocate Servo solvo sermo.

    Save the Rhinoceros. Only five species are left in the whole world and none have been seen in Rogers Park in recent memory. Turkeys and goats and ducks are boring. Save the Rhinoceros.

  • Marianne Passionate

    Erin, there are 2 versions of the text: one, Dreiser's original, and the expurgated published version Doubleday released in 1900. Some of the content of Dreiser's original text was deemed much too racy or controversial for a Puritanical society of the time. Another concern of Doubleday's was Dreiser's original ending, which they considered too intense in its tone of despair. They demanded Dreiser add a few paragraphs to diffuse the intensity of the last lines. While hardly cheerier or uplifting, the "epilogue" does distract the reader to some degree from the painful emotions of the previous scene--mostly bogging down the reader with overly ornate and verbose rhetoric, which does a grave disservice to a brilliant literary work IMO. In 1981, the Univ. of Pennsylvania Press recovered Dreiser's original text and released its "unexpurgated" edition. If you can, Erin, see if you DL'd the Penn. Press edition; if not, see if you can find it. It's worth the effort IMO.

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    Feathers is considering moving back to RP. As you may recall he is a cross dressing Rooster that rarely crows. Expressed concern that pigs in dresses have recently been spotted north of Halsted.

  • Nino S pastry chef

    North of Halsted? Did the walker have a mind burst from drugs? Me is doing a laugh as I make bread dough. The walker is having a mental explosion I thinks.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Nino, we know that Bruce gets confused. What is a pastry chef doing making bread?

  • Bruce_ Comment by TBD, whom you've muted

    It's always so funny when the simple minds cannot connect the dots. That's OK the dead poets club is about to make a new video. Maybe Helen can make a cameo.

  • " I really thought someone had slipped me some acid or something..." LOL

  • d3 NOH

    BTW to add to the chickens list... I have 4 growers at the moment that will be out in the next day or two. Helen probably could have heard me screaming this week as I've been building the coop still. And I'm the last guy in town without a nail gun--my thumb nail might be the sacrifice.

    neighbor (who is the newer owner of Heartland Cafe) has chickens. Last night someone was coming down the alley and I believe looking to see them... they stopped in front of my gate and I heard them say "they're back there!" and reversed back to see them.

    interesting debates on whether it's part of a fighting ring, or just a tossed rooster, or a missed sacrifice...all seem plausible. The sacrificial thing is def. a thing I've heard about--they do it at the beach typically I believe. With goats too.

    If you order chicks by mail you can order them female only, but when big distributors get them and send them, they will send a few extras in case one dies in the mail shipment. supposedly, that's where the roosters can come into play if you're ordering by mail. If you're just ordering 3-4 I don't think they send extras
    though.

    as far as roosters in the city... I don't think they're illegal per se outright. They may violate the noise ordinance in the morning, and you are not allowed to keep animals for meat.... so 'what else is there' ... (breeding).

    Personally I bought mine at Belmont Feed & Seed -- great little store right at Belmont and 90/94. They have a variety of breeds as well as organic feed and all the supplies you'd need.

  • d3 NOH

    the woman w/ them in her front yard.... not too crazy that she's letting them wander the yard, but the more normal thing would be to build a small chicken tractor enclosure and move that where they are grazing that day.

  • Nino S pastry chef

    Yeast dough needs time to rise so it is made way before the pastry dough and before feather footed corkadoodles begin to crow. Helen must be a baker or donut maker being up the same time I am. A pig named Monique who lives down the street also is awake when I go to work but she is a local Walker and not of the Brucean species. She is ending her work day by then.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    d3, are you immediately east of Tom's chickens? If so, that's too far down for me to have heard you. If I were you, I wouldn't count on having all girls. I'm not at all sure that they can really determine the sex of chicks that young. Mo usually gets a couple of roosters in her batch. It's been determined that roosters are not illegal in Chicago though neighbors may certainly object.

  • This is awesome! I want chickens too... and a goat, pig, buffalo etc...

  • Joshua M

    baby chicks are easy to sex i did it in high school as a side job you just puff on their feathers to see the parts to save the girls and the boys are tossed down a chute and culled

  • Filbert Wiesel writer and activist

    Culling means they are turned into cat food and sold as chicken.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Taylor, even if you have one of those houses on the north side of Juneway with the deep backyards, there's not room enough for a bison around here. (Buffalo are Asian.)

    Joshua, who are you trying to fool?

    Roger, you mean that Poultry Platter I've been feeding Punkin is baby chicks? Please, say it isn't so.

  • Misha Borovitz optimistic but cautious

    Some buffalo are Asian, some are African and a few are Polish. Japanese geneticists are trying to create a miniature form of Bison that would be about the size of a Cocker Spaniel dog. It would be fun having a little herd of them roam in the back yard.

  • Buffalo milk is actually quite a commodity and very hard to get your hands on... can be exorbitantly priced too (it makes the best non-homogenized raw mozzarella!!)

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/112697019.html

    Yet you're right, I'll never be able to convince my condo association :-)

  • Misha Borovitz optimistic but cautious

    You can thank the Goths or the Normans or the Mesopotamian Arabs or Hannibal or the returning Crusaders for introducing Water Buffalo to Italy. Nobody knows but those sluggish hefty old gals sure make good cheese.

  • Helen NoH North of Howard for 55 + years

    Oh, you did mean a real buffalo. I thought you meant the bison that used to roam the great plains, which are often called buffalo. Oh, for a Caprese salad with Heirloom tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella.

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