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Added Jun 21 2011

This is one of my pet peeves from my pet peeve zoo.
1) People who walk/run/ride/seg on the wrong side where they can see that everyone else in their lane is going in the opposite direction
2) Chatting to others or on phones totally oblivious to traffic
3) Stopping/standing/ to socialize in the bike path
4) People who allow their children to play/sit/lie down in the bike path

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    Here, here! And let us not forget people who are going 100 miles an hour who will mow you down if you attempt to get in their way. I'm both a biker and a walker. When I'm on a bike, I try to yield to sensible pedestrians (i.e., those who adhere to path etiquette). When I'm walking, is it too much to ask that you walk/run/ride on the CORRECT side of the path and not glare at me when I refuse to move? Like my Mom said, I fear that manners and respect for others no longer exist in this world; pathetic.

  • Inactive user

    The ones that kill me are those guys that ride their bikes and pull their dogs on a leash.
    It breaks my heart when I see those dogs trying so hard to keep up with their tongues hanging out a foot - trying to cool themselves off.
    Not only is it cruel - especially in the hot weather (how would you like someone to do that to you?) but its ridiculously dangerous on the multi use path where things are already crazy. The two of them take up a whole side of the path and everyone has to dive to get out of their way.
    I hate bike pulling everywhere unless the rider is going REALLY slow and stops frequently for a water and rest break and I still don't like it then either.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    And I thought I was the only one!! Those Lance wanna- be's with their goofy outfits speeding like the Tour de France who try to run us down. I've cursed many of them on my runs-- even though a stick in their spokes would be more satisfying!
    And the morons who "walk" their dogs while riding their bikes attached to leashes! OMG HOW THAT DRIVES ME NUTS!!!! so dangerous on so many levels!
    I did forget one thing:
    The couples who stop IN THE MIDDLE of the bike path to make out!!

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    Yes! I was out last night and witnessed ALL of that! Oh and something else; a pack of thuggish young boys walking down the middle of the path, refusing to move. But, I had to admit, it WAS rather amusing when one of the "Lance wanna-be's" almost hit one of the thugs (in addition to a child walking with his parents) and quickly rode away when it became obvious that if the thug caught him, he'd for sure be getting a "beat down."

  • Inactive user

    Good comments!
    AndiJ - glad I'm not the only one who is bugged by the cycle/dog people. I'm a quiet person by nature but when I see any animal cruelty I'm a totally different person - I scream, holler, etc.
    My mom was like that too - very sedate and shy lady but if she saw some kids shooting birds with b b guns - watch out!!

  • Nikon shooter Bronzeville Resident

    I am a cyclist and agree that some of the folks can be a bit agressive. It is born of the frustration of not having an exclusive and safe place to ride.

    Most of the runners and walkers aren't following any reasonable pattern either. The aggressive cyclists have learned a good ride means blasting through.

    Don't consider that group of punks focusing on the cyclist funny. He at least can quickly flee the scene while they scan the path looking for their next meal.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    I also find those walkers/runners who walk abreast and take up the whe bikepath aggravating - especially those running groups with the sense of entitlement to the whom path - I try to be polite the first three warnings but after that I get loud. "On your left /right/ behind you" doesn't seem to work with many,- I have to resort to watch out you're on a bike path not a park bench"

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    YES, AndiJ, totally agree with you! So annoying! Don't they teach these people anything about "path etiquette" when they join these groups? Seriously, I pay taxes just like you do to use the lake front paths, enough already with the sense of entitlement! I try to time my walks on the weekends just to avoid these groups, who LOVE to hog the path like a herd of buffalo. I mean, you should know what "on your left," or "on your right" means. And then they have the nerve to look at you in aggravation if you get loud, AFTER they have refused to acknowledge you or move.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    As for the punks, most of the time they're just testing folks to see who's going to move out of the way- sort of a dominance bully thing - I learned that from being picked on and threatened and stalked as a kid - and in the workplace LOL

  • Nikon shooter Bronzeville Resident

    Path ettiquette is definitely in order! Perhaps CARA or the CPD will take up the challenge and get the word out with a couple of monthly promotions?

    Andi, I see your point! The work bullies are sometimes worse:)
    Anyone have a guess as to why the punks are so numerous now?
    This level of activity was expected when we were ringed with the notorious projects that have now been leveled...

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    Hi Wendell, unfortunately, I think that CPD has enough on their plate, keeping order on the lakefront path. Although I have seen a few officers who normally work the path "check" wayward bikers/walkers who get out of line when they're around. CARA is another matter; I think they should definitely be doing their part to educate their members. Especially on "event" days. I had the misfortune to be out early Saturday a few weeks ago during the half marathon; a little advance notice when major events are taking place would be appreciated; that way, I can "re-route" my workouts. Again, these folks have to remember they dont' "own" the path, just because they happen to be participating in a function that day. We all need to "play nice." The reason why the punks are so numerous I would guess has to do with a variety of factors. Most of the projects have been done away with, hence, most former residents are no longer in one central location, they are now residing in various city neighborhoods and suburbs. Also, unemployment is high amongst teens and first time grads this year. Although, that's still not an excuse. A neighbor of mine related a story to me about how her teen grandson could not find employment this year; as a result, the family was proactive anticipating his boredom, and made sure he has plenty of "activities" to occupy his time this Summer (i.e., park district programs, projects around the house, community volunteering, etc.). Finally, technology plays a factor too. You can easily "tweet" or send a Facebook invite (most kids now have media phones, obtained honestly or "otherwise") to meet up almost anywhere.

  • Nikon shooter Bronzeville Resident

    Thank you Lisadee:) It's easy to forget how it is to be young and bored.... Unfortunately a lot of the bored youngsters have turned to making trouble for themselves and others.

    Even if it's on a volunteer basis, we could use a good job corps program.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    Adults need to stop being afraid to treat children like Children- Many young people really feel entitled to everything , including respect- they need to be taught that respect is EARNED - not entitled- and it's the adults that must teach them- we, as adults, must not defer to, or act afraid of young people

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    One of my techniques for wayward walkers, joggers, and other bike path etiquettely challenged folks is to announce my approach as if on a bike or horse, keep giving the "heads-up" , and if they still refuse to Move by the time I'm about to step on them, I give one more announcement, then If I literally have no choice but to stop because of no space, I "clip" them with an elbow- then they notice .

    Not very classy but affective

  • Inactive user

    You know its weird that Chicago is so far behind....the Twin Cities.
    As far back as 1988 they had double paths in their parks about 15' apart (maybe more - I forget.)
    One path had pictures of big wheels on the asphalt and the other one had feet prints. Beautiful in its simplicity, impossible not to notice and everyone obliged. How could you not?
    To me, a daily runner, the biggest problem are the wheels without a doubt especially going through the tunnels leading to the multi use path.
    Very, very dangerous to ride through with those blind curves at both ends. I've seen about a zillion near misses at Waveland and North Avenue and a few direct hits with blood all over the place.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    I've seen that, too, or the aftermath, people and twisted bikes in the street,up by Wilson, Foster, and Lawrence.
    The most hazardous areas are the path that goes over the river at grand, and that whole area by Ohio Street Beach, Oak Street Beach, And North Avenue Beach.

  • Nikon shooter Bronzeville Resident

    I am hopeful that our new mayor will look at some infrastructure improvements for the LFP. I know the Active Transportation Alliance now has new leadership and I hope this is their focus too.

    The ATA can be found; http://www.activetrans.org/

  • Inactive user

    Andi, I was almost taken out at the Oak Street beach part of the multi use trail a few years ago by a speeding cyclist.
    As you may know there are a lot of "slow down" warnings there and maybe even a "walk your bike" thing - I can't remember
    I had stopped to cross over to the other side of the trail (cloudy weekday) and go back up north when to my horror I saw a hunkered down cyclist zooming right into me.
    I got that "deer in the headlights" thing and couldn't move so I just froze. He soared right past me, cursing away. Now I turn at North Ave by the bridge -its just not worth the angst in terms of watching everybody like a hawk.

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    I totally agree with you Andi and Becky. I refuse to even bike past Randolph anymore for that reason. Things are REALLY insane when you get past that point. When a good buddy of mine lived in Lakeview she was out on her roller blades, minding her own business. No this Lance Wannabee Jerk did not plow right into her, knocking her down. The jerk didn't even apologize or ask if she was hurt. He stopped, got off inspected his bike, glared at her and rode off. People like that are total asses and should be ticketed just like reckless drivers. Or, better still, let them try that with the wrong person. A few Summers back, a friend told me she witnessed a child being hit by a biker at 31st street beach. Again, the biker tried to speed away but THIS time the irate father of the child caught him. According to my buddy, let's just say, things did not go well for the biker after the dad finished with him.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    I really do appreciate everyones input/comments- now when I run into (sometimes literally) these inconsiderate and/or clueless folks, I laugh !

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    I agree Andi; I thought of all of our comments as I almost ran down a few folks on the wrong side of the path!

  • Nikon shooter Bronzeville Resident

    Hello AndiJ and Lisadee, I had the same thoughts last night as I bore down on a necking couple on the wrong side of the path! It really takes a sense of humor to ride around here this summer:)

  • Inactive user

    The trail has been wild ever since the weekend.
    We have to cross it to get over to run by the lakefront and you have to stand there and wait and wait to just get across. This is at Waveland - and the tunnel there - don't even ask!
    Those cyclists that aren't walking their bikes through it are looney!
    I worry about them as they approach those blind curves - who knows who is coming down either ramp(maybe at the same time) - coming right at them?
    I wish to God there was another way to get into the park rather than those darn tunnels - and now they are getting all graffitti'd up, too.
    Oh, for the cold weather to come back- then it all gets back to normal.

  • AndiJ Hyde Parker since '78

    I've put off buying a bike horn, but I just might get one to carry on my runs- LOL

  • lisadee Ten Plus Year Hyde Park Resident

    Heck, it certainly can't hurt!

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