This pirate has friends and family from all over the country asking me "What the hell''s going on in Chicago?" I just tell them that 'it's a matter of perception'. Their perception is that I'll be doing the traveling when we visit.
My friend, she's actually a former student of mine, a woman in her early 20s, just out having fun with her friends. She actually did get hurt, and her friends did get hurt. These are guys who are willing to brutalize a female. Here is what she says:
"It happened exactly on Mozart and the first alley north of Fullerton. There was seven of us. Three guys and four girls. We were walking from the Mutiny to Bonny's around two in the morning. when we were on Mozart, the first guy, passed in front of me and my friend E-, and then he circled back around us and a second guy appeared behind with him. They had a gun that they were flashing and pointing at us. They cornered us into the alley and started taking our things one by one. The guy with the gun kept the gun pointed while the other one was taking all our stuff. My friend N-, (she) got pistol whipped in the cheekbone and had to go to the hospital. My other friend M-, who was standing next to me (she) got also hit in the forehead with the gun and had to get stitches. They beat up our friend T. Broke his nose and messed up his eye. Everybody else was alright just a little scratched up and pushed around. i got my two front teeth chipped with the gun when he striking my friend E. (continues)
(continued from above post). Here is what they looked like. One with the gun: Tall maybe about 6'2 dreads passed his shoulders, couldn't be older than 23. White shirt, jeans or jean shorts. the gun he had, we came to the conclusion later, that it probably wasn't a real gun. It looked like something they definitely wouldn't carry on them. it was a silver. It looked like an older pistol. I think it was one of those cap guns that are still metal.
The other one wore a red shirt, basketball shorts and a dark hat. He had short hair and was way shorter than the other guy. He was maybe about 5'7.
There was a third guy in the car they got away in. It was parked up the block and from what one of our friends could notice when he ran out, that it was a red small passengers car. but
They kept referencing a lot to "the game." things like, "this is how you play the game" "this isn't a joke, its a game" We do have a case going with a detective, but most likely they won't be caught. i kept my debit card open till late in the afternoon the next day just to see if they would use it, but they did not. they basically robbed us for cash, and maybe got away with no more than 150 bucks from all of us combined. They took all of our purses, but didn't take some phones. and later we also found two more phones along the street, which they must have thrown out of the car."
JenniferBridgeport to Bucktown and some places in between
thanks for the information and I hope your friend (and her friends) are healing. this is very scary
I don't know, maybe we can form some kind of group that looks out for each other, even just out the window, when people are coming and going. There's not enough cops out here and the mayor and police chief keep saying to "give them time"....
ch1cag0rob10+ year Logan Squarite, new to Jefferson Park.
Is it assuming too much to guess that these guys were black? There's been a problem in Chicago media lately with not giving the race of suspected perps even though that's one of the first things people notice.
Duly noted: watch out for black guys wearing hood gear around 2 am in that neighborhood.
(from a friend on facebook- guy with dreads in story) my friend got dragged into an alley at Whipple and Armitage by a young black guy with dreads- she screamed and bit her way free. It was only 10.30pm. Police didn't want to take a report "because we found your bag in the alley". Female friend, FYI. She was alone. Cops finally wrote it up as "aggravated robbery". WTF.
Honest question for a cop or someone familiar with the process: why would cops be reticent to take a report for something like what was described above, which sounds like assault or battery or attempted robbery or what have you? Are they getting leaned on to produce good CompStat numbers, or something?
The muggings at Mozart & Fullerton and the two attempted assaults were all in the 14th district.
Tonight (7/12) there's a beat meeting at the Logan Square Boys & Girls Club at 7 pm. I'm going to try to make it but I might be late. It would be great if we could get a lot of people there to let them know that this guy is a major threat and needs to be taken seriously.
Here's the meeting info: 7:00 PM-8:00 PM 1413 & 1414 Combined Beat Meeting Details: Please join your beat 1413 & 1414 neighbors and Chicago Police Officers to help make your beat a better place to live. Contact Details: For more information, contact the 14th District Community Policing Office (312) 744-1261 Location: Logan Square Boys & Girls Club 3228 W. Palmer
How people can read this and still feel that allowing people to carry a weapon for defense is wrong I will never understand. Chicago is literally turning into the wild west, the crooks know we are all unarmed, and are easy prey.
Criminals can get guns any time they want. Why do we keep refusing to allow those of us who follow the law to protect ourselves?
@Jackstraw people will raise issues on this site as much as they would like. That's the purpose of the site. If your desire is to repress views the creators of Everyblock included a feature that allows you to mute a specific user. I would suggest you use it.
As far as your question is concerned allowing licensed citizens to carry a weapon creates a deterrent. The bad guys, most of which are cowards at heart, will not know if the individual they are about to attack will be armed. They will not know if a bystander will be armed. They will then think twice about attacking anyone.
Honestly Jackstraw this thread has a lot of different opinions on how to deal with the posted violence. If other have opinions other than yours why be so rude about it? This is a site dedicated to discussion. If you wish to limit posters free speech you may want to use the mute button as Chicagocouple said.
It may be time to go old school and invest in some mace or perhaps that high pitched personal safety alarm that was semi-popular in the 90's. If the attacker has a knife and asks for your money, we can assume he lets you go into your pocket, purse, bag, etc to get it. Then you can press the alarm button, and start spraying. We can't just assume the police will catch him or he'll get bored with assaulting women so I think everyone in the area should form an emergency plan.
Dude you called the poster a "fanatic", you said they have a "hobby horse concealed carry advocacy", you said the poster has "psychological compensation desires". You don't think that is name calling? I sure do. No place has the poster made a single negative comment to you.
I AGREE 110% with Chicago couple.....we are sheep and we keep doing what were told by politicians that don't have a clue....I'm so over it.....God helps those......who help themselves! We need to start taking matters into our own hands by demanding THAT guns can be carried by citizens... who have been.... and don't want to be victims.....ENOUGH!
This is a bad and scary thing that happened, but I noticed a comment that black people would really stick out in this neighborhood - as it is mostly white and hispanic. Wow. I have African American friends who live next door. There have ALWAYS been black folks - families - in the neighborhood - since at least the early eighties. Perhaps this wasn't meant to sound like racism, but wow - how are people supposed to react to this. Like - look, there is a black guy with dreads - he must be a criminal.
Please. Nobody here said it wasn't their neighborhood. Again it was a simple statement of fact. If someone attacked a woman, and they said he was tall, is that profiling? What about if they said he was bald? Had a face tattoo? In a wheelchair?
I've lived in Logan Square for 18 years. It ain't Utah. I've seen plenty of dread-heads, white and black, in the 'hood since my time here. Yes, the AA population may be "less than 10%, but there are also businesses that employ African-American and other people of color, not to mention service business that cater to and have AA customers, so I don't think my people "stick out so much" around these parts, hairstyle not withstanding.
Also, law enforcement tends to prefer the terminology of "dark, medium or light-skinned" as there have been false arrests made based on racial designation, i.e. the perp was actual dark-skinned Hispanic and not African-American; light skinned bi-racial and not white, Filipino and not Puerto Rican. You tell law enforcement the perp was "black/African American", and that's what they're looking for, which may or may not be the case.
Thanks, Alice! Forty years I've lived in this neighborhood - it has never been "white". Really wonder about some of the comments here. My friends, my neighbors, kids I have seen grow up here, African American, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Guatemalan, Cuban, (not "Hispanic") and now new folks are trying to redefine us. We have always been a multi-racial and multi-cultural area.
Sincerely sorry for trying to be helpful and let my neighbors know that there's a guy out there that's seriously harming others. I only put together that it's probably the same guy from the descriptions given by the people who actually saw the man. From now on I'll keep my mouth shut and mind my own business.
Allison, it was good that you reported it. No one wants to see crime in the neighborhood, and we all should look out for each other. The thread about racial profiling began when someone posted that it was basically a "white" neighborhood and a black person would really "stick out". I think that is something else altogether. Of course we should be aware of predators, of what they look like, and how they operate, so thanks for your post!
Carrie, it may be a "I don't have any (fill-in-the-blank) friends and I don't interact with those that don't look/sound/have the exact socio-economic background as I do so there aren't (any)". Less of a melting pot and more of an uncomfortable co-existence; and because most non-people of color are uncomfortable discussing the realities of race in it's current form, and the history of race and the benefits of racial segregation and alienation (and now class and gentrification), well, we continue to circle the toilet bowl of polarization while the rest of the world moves on.
This sounds much like a mugging that happened to my friend about a week ago. He and his brother and sister, who were visiting from out of town, were walking home from a bar around 2am and were mugged/pistol whipped near his home at Bell and North Avenue. I think they only hit his sister, I guess because she told them to go f@@k themselves. The way they were approached was very similar, down to the lookout and the driver in a car waiting. I'd bet it was the same people. He did file a report. I'm sorry for your friend.
I saw two individuals yesterday walking around in the same neighborhood near Mozart fitting the description provided in the police report. I called 911 to report and the police showed up right away. Guys came over to police van, leaned on the window, chatted and laughed (with the officer - couldn't see him). Followed up today to see what happened and was told there was no way to find out. I will make a 311 report next time to have a file number to follow-up on.